what learning java will do is give you a good grounding in the basic principles of OO
inheritance, abstraction, reuse, the values of design patterns, etc etc etc. all the buzzwords and more.
also ,if you start using it for anything other than command line data manipulation, you'll probably come across a few good frameworks that will help you along the way
for example, if you apply java to the web you'll probably want to check out spring mvc, struts, or other such frameworks
and after ALL that, you'll be able to pick up pretty quickly decent web mvc frameworks in languages such as php (eg: zend, codeignitor, php cake, etc) or somesuch...
Slightly depressed.... (CBPOB)
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Or write your own framework.
Once you get the discipline of doing proper OOP in PHP it gets a lot easier. I've developed a nice little library of code (admittedly I'm always improving it) which I reuse time and again.
Once you get the discipline of doing proper OOP in PHP it gets a lot easier. I've developed a nice little library of code (admittedly I'm always improving it) which I reuse time and again.
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
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—Bertrand Russell
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Get ye tae Geeks Corner!
week 2 of peecee ♡sink
week 2 of peecee ♡sink
"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
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~ Peter Steele
Thanks, Ladz!
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no more Pete, no more T-O-N
I'm being selfish 'cause I allas thought they'd play Glasgow one more time
I'm being selfish 'cause I allas thought they'd play Glasgow one more time
"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
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~ Peter Steele
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You can be selfish! *hugs* honey, it's a sad day! Loving your avatar and signature my dear... he will smile down later.James Blast wrote:no more Pete, no more T-O-N
I'm being selfish 'cause I allas thought they'd play Glasgow one more time
it's all about circles and spirals
that ongoing eternity
that ongoing eternity
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I'm really knocked sideways Debs, just last week I started on a T-O-Nfest and now it's done
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~ Peter Steele
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I feel your pain. Sideways knocked is the worse cause it comes as a shock out of the blue. Yet we know we find the time to be sad but have to carry on tomorrow. *holds your heart in my hands*James Blast wrote:I'm really knocked sideways Debs, just last week I started on a T-O-Nfest and now it's done
it's all about circles and spirals
that ongoing eternity
that ongoing eternity
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I remember being blown away (excuse the pun) when Kurt Cobain killed himself. It's hard when your heroes leave too early, be it ill health or otherwise.
I saw Don McLean on telly tonight, he looked f**king dead
I saw Don McLean on telly tonight, he looked f**king dead
‎"We will wear some very loud shirts. We will wear some very wrong trousers."
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work.
anyone here ever had that daydream where you started to stab everyone in the department?
anyone here ever had that daydream where you started to stab everyone in the department?
Another Shade of You.
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nope, rampage with a baseball bat
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~ Peter Steele
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my weapon of choice would be a nailgun, I have plenty of them over there
reorganisations, my back is killing me after I have been given a new 'teammate' whenever he is helping it seems my side of the load is getting 10 times that heavy
reorganisations, my back is killing me after I have been given a new 'teammate' whenever he is helping it seems my side of the load is getting 10 times that heavy
Another Shade of You.
My inability to get the rest of my team up to speed with the new control system we are now using at work.
Signs are I've underestimated my workload and quality help is in limited supply.
Heroic measures will be called for in the next couple of months if I wish to avoid looking a complete tit.
Ambition, truly you are a cruel mistress.
Signs are I've underestimated my workload and quality help is in limited supply.
Heroic measures will be called for in the next couple of months if I wish to avoid looking a complete tit.
Ambition, truly you are a cruel mistress.
You are what you drink - I'm a bitter man!
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you are a Baisturt Boss, Don
FACT!
FACT!
"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
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~ Peter Steele
i'm marking assignments and i can't believe the crap i'm reading. the pesky critters obviously haven't even been arsed to read the assignment instructions, let alone the relevant sections in their coursebook and the documents i posted on the course website. needless to say, all the stuff we talked about in class have gone in one ear and out the other
someone's doing something wrong. and i'm beginning to think it's me
someone's doing something wrong. and i'm beginning to think it's me
farking Air Berlin canceled the Vienna- Berlin flight I was on tomorrow.
Have to drive there now.
Have to drive there now.
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Can't rustle up the ambition to proceed with this damn essay on quangos in British government.
Also damn sick of my facebook/twitter/livejournal being swamped with Sh*tby posts.
Also damn sick of my facebook/twitter/livejournal being swamped with Sh*tby posts.
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I used to work for a quango, not best job I ever had but up there
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~ Peter Steele
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I've worked for The Man a few times, can't really complain.
Writing about it, on the other hand, is an almighty fook-around.
Writing about it, on the other hand, is an almighty fook-around.
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Know what you mean - having worked for any number of mythical beasts I would agree that they make lousy bosses.James Blast wrote:I used to work for a quango, not best job I ever had but up there
"I won't go down in history, but I probably will go down on your sister."
Hank Moody
Hank Moody
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My team leader sent my manager a childish, rude and quite incorrect email about me.
Silly moo sent it to me by mistake.
I reply back to both of them stating the accusation was incorrect and that is no way to talk about a fellow member of staff.
I speak to manager, who says the team leader states it was a comment about something else (as if the something else was alright to comment on).
I refute this as the complete lie it is and refuse to accept an apology from her based on a lie.
We go back in the office only to find she has vanished and therefore unable to provide this 'apology'.
I leave early and go and pick up my boy from school.
Meeting workmate for bevvy'n'bitch in an hour.
What a f**king Day..
Silly moo sent it to me by mistake.
I reply back to both of them stating the accusation was incorrect and that is no way to talk about a fellow member of staff.
I speak to manager, who says the team leader states it was a comment about something else (as if the something else was alright to comment on).
I refute this as the complete lie it is and refuse to accept an apology from her based on a lie.
We go back in the office only to find she has vanished and therefore unable to provide this 'apology'.
I leave early and go and pick up my boy from school.
Meeting workmate for bevvy'n'bitch in an hour.
What a f**king Day..
‎"We will wear some very loud shirts. We will wear some very wrong trousers."
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I take it you're not in a union?
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~ Peter Steele
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look at it this way: you caught them out slagging you off, and you fronted up to them.
trust me, they'll be the one that feels embarrassed and they will be the one that is worried what you'll say next time you see them. they're the one that looks foolish
trust me, they'll be the one that feels embarrassed and they will be the one that is worried what you'll say next time you see them. they're the one that looks foolish
What’s the difference between a buffalo and a bison?
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James I'm not but I'm not prepared to let this lie. iI know you've had your own s**t and appreciate the concern.
Boss Totally, I have quite a lot of ammunition now.
Boss Totally, I have quite a lot of ammunition now.
‎"We will wear some very loud shirts. We will wear some very wrong trousers."