let's see if I can score zero replies with this one...
http://www.cracked.com/article_18500_th ... tards.html
don't worry, it's not all words, there's audio to back the case up
5 Top musicians who are thieving bastards
- James Blast
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"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
~ Peter Steele
~ Peter Steele
someone pointed that "more" by here-well-known-band is quite similar to some DM song from "Violator" (dun't remember what - too much butter and meat), especially intro and as i checked it is indeed "close" but it's hard to say who borrow idea from who cause both bands where in the same studio during same time and release album in the same year.
No Oasis??
Actually shocked they haven't been in court yet (for nicking cr@p that is)
Actually shocked they haven't been in court yet (for nicking cr@p that is)
- James Blast
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54mf61KN7wA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wfaYiuRzgE
settled out of court - ie FAIL!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wfaYiuRzgE
settled out of court - ie FAIL!
"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
~ Peter Steele
~ Peter Steele
- markfiend
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Steal from one person, it's theft.
Steal from two people, it's derivative.
Steal from three or more people, it's influenced by an eclectic knowledge of music history.
Steal from two people, it's derivative.
Steal from three or more people, it's influenced by an eclectic knowledge of music history.
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
—Bertrand Russell
- Izzy HaveMercy
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Steal from your OWN band time and again and you're called Nickelback.markfiend wrote:Steal from one person, it's theft.
Steal from two people, it's derivative.
Steal from three or more people, it's influenced by an eclectic knowledge of music history.
IZ.
- markfiend
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Izzy HaveMercy wrote:Steal from your OWN band time and again and you're called Nickelback.markfiend wrote:Steal from one person, it's theft.
Steal from two people, it's derivative.
Steal from three or more people, it's influenced by an eclectic knowledge of music history.
IZ.
Back to the original linky from Blast I was aware of the fact that The Zep "borrowed" a number of blues classics, especially on the first two albums ("Lemon Song" springs to mind) but nicking off your contemporaries is a bit sh!tty.
Comedy, not music, but I understand that there are rumours about Peter "garlic bread" Kaye being a thieving bastard too...
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
—Bertrand Russell
Talent borrows. Genius steals.
Not justifying Led Zep in any way shape or format....
Not justifying Led Zep in any way shape or format....
The Chancer Corporation
- boudicca
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It's virtually impossible NOT to borrow if you want to play the blues though. Same three chords, laid out in one of a couple of basic formats... then once you're limited by the number of notes you can use in a melody over that, you can only come up with so many combinations really. It's pretty inevitable some of them are going to sound the same. And that applies to a lesser extent to rock and roll as well. I often wonder how many cases of plagiarism are less a case of deliberate "nicking", and more the result of a lack of imagination and a fear of trying out more unusual chords and scales because it will sound less commercial.markfiend wrote:Back to the original linky from Blast I was aware of the fact that The Zep "borrowed" a number of blues classics, especially on the first two albums ("Lemon Song" springs to mind) but nicking off your contemporaries is a bit sh!tty.
That probably explains why the only Led Zep song I've heard that I really like is Kashmir - all that Phrygian mode ak-shun!
There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in Millets
- James Blast
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Eh!? but yore a gurl, gurls dinna understand music
"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
~ Peter Steele
~ Peter Steele
- boudicca
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Bah! Since when did I care about sh!te like that. You and your oppressive gender stereotypesJames Blast wrote:Eh!? but yore a gurl, gurls dinna understand music
There's a man with a mullet going mad with a mallet in Millets
If I told them once, I told them a hundred times to put 'Spinal Tap' first and 'Puppet Show' last.
- EvilBastard
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Nay Soop Draggonnes neither...mh wrote:No Spacemen 3 in the list?
"I won't go down in history, but I probably will go down on your sister."
Hank Moody
Hank Moody
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Nah, not convinced on that one. Plus DM had left Puk by the time the Sisters had set up camp.Bartek wrote:someone pointed that "more" by here-well-known-band is quite similar to some DM song from "Violator" (dun't remember what - too much butter and meat), especially intro and as i checked it is indeed "close" but it's hard to say who borrow idea from who cause both bands where in the same studio during same time and release album in the same year.
Four strings good, six strings bad
- James Blast
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correctedsam1 wrote:all of this just convinces me that we live in an age of refinement,,not in an age of originality-no doubt someone on here will correct me
happy now?
shit, what have I done, this man is cooking a meal for me next Sunday!
"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
~ Peter Steele
~ Peter Steele
She Wants Revenge. This is The End= Dept. S. Is Vic There?
I suppose the most obvious rip-off by that band in particular is "We are the same, Suzanne"/"I wanna be adored" by TSR. Which is a great shame, as it's the best tune since anything on Floodland.Bartek wrote:someone pointed that "more" by here-well-known-band is quite similar to some DM song from "Violator" (dun't remember what - too much butter and meat), especially intro and as i checked it is indeed "close" but it's hard to say who borrow idea from who cause both bands where in the same studio during same time and release album in the same year.
"Vengeance. Justice. Fire and blood.."
- metal on metal
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A few rip-offs...
Queen Bitch (David Bowie) = Three Steps to Heaven (Eddie Cochran)
Red Sails (David Bowie) = Monza (Harmonia)
Love Removal Machine (The Cult) = Start Me Up (The Rolling Stones)
Christine (The House of Love) = Over You (Roxy Music)
Inbetween Days (The Cure) = Dreams Never End (New Order)
All The Way (New Order) = Just Like Heaven (The Cure)
Athlete Cured (The Fall) = Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight (Spinal Tap)
Not too sure how intentional that last one was, mind you
Queen Bitch (David Bowie) = Three Steps to Heaven (Eddie Cochran)
Red Sails (David Bowie) = Monza (Harmonia)
Love Removal Machine (The Cult) = Start Me Up (The Rolling Stones)
Christine (The House of Love) = Over You (Roxy Music)
Inbetween Days (The Cure) = Dreams Never End (New Order)
All The Way (New Order) = Just Like Heaven (The Cure)
Athlete Cured (The Fall) = Tonight I'm Gonna Rock You Tonight (Spinal Tap)
Not too sure how intentional that last one was, mind you