Eldritch - Nietzschean Ubermensch

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I'm not sure congratulations is the right word here!
I must admitt, I'd have been tempted to take the money to fund other projects. However, the sticking point would have been having to dumb down my work.
Couldn't have done that.
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the hardest thing is that the money would have meant being able to do my Phd. But then I want to do my Phd to get a teaching position in a uni and that won't happen if I write dumbed down crap so a no win situation really.... :sad:
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@GS:

I'm really sorry to hear that, sweetie - that BLOWS. Just proves that all anyone seems to be interested in supporting/marketing these days is the crap that appeals to the lowest common denominator... What a damn shame!! :von:

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Do a good work now, people will recognize it and later you can ask more $$$, or better yet €€€€
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Well, I'm a prized pillock aren't I? Maybe I should have investigated this agency a bit more before telling 'em to p*ss off. I mean, I knew they had offices worldwide and stuff and weren't just literary agents..... but imagine my surprise this morning when I flicked through the sleeve notes for The Emimen Show and discovered that Eminem is also on their books!!!!!!! Hmmmm.... I wonder who else they represent....

Anyway, if you'll excuse me I have business matters to attend to. I hear the Devil has put in a bid for my soul.... })
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@ GS
It's all a question of perspective. Just like the old joke, what's the difference between a bitch and a whore?
A whore will sleep with anyone. A bitch will sleep with anyone but you!
Good luck!
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On Aug 18, 2002 7:12pm, Erudite wrote:

A whore will sleep with anyone. A bitch will sleep with anyone but you!
hee hee :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :grin:
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Eldritch = Lemmy's lovechild with your mum!!! :evil: ;D
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my God, you really are a total menace
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James Blast wrote:my God, you really are a total menace
Agreed. :roll:
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looks like classic nervous breakdown :lol:
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"Nietzschean Ubermensch" is an intellectual construct, an eidolon (which i think he never defined very rigidly), which may or may not to a lesser or greater degree resemble a person of freedom and will.

i think most such people couldn't care less if they fit into a construct of some half-mad, yet admittedly sometimes rather insightful, thinker.
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What a silly thread.
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The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.
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I'm just a layman here, so I don't want to outstep my boundaries or anything, but I think the idea that Mr Eldritch represents to any degree some kind of "super-duper hotshot" that Nietzche used to fantasize about growing up to be one day, is a load of old toss. But that's just my two cents.
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sultan2075 wrote:What a silly thread.
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Reading back through this thread I can only conclude that I must have been on some seriously good gear back then! :lol:
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I didn't read every comment, but from what I read above, you guys' discussion on Nietzsche was impressive! It's just that I fail to see any connection whatsoever between Nietzsche and dear AE :D :lol:
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Sita wrote:I didn't read every comment, but from what I read above, you guys' discussion on Nietzsche was impressive! It's just that I fail to see any connection whatsoever between Nietzsche and dear AE :D :lol:
IIRC the crux of it was that in his refusal to compromise and in sticking to his principles AE conformed to Nietzsche's paradigm of the artist being beyond the concept of good and evil. :innocent:

My opinion might have shifted somewhat in the last nine years. :wink:
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It's probably all academic, isn't it? Clearly Von has absorbed a vast wealth of literature, fiction and not, including that of plenty of philosophers, so it's inevitable that some of their work is gonna rub off on him...

In terms of his individuality, I like how some things he's known to be fond of don't jive with the (often overly-gothy) imagery many his most die-hard fans prefer to associate him with... it only adds to the mystery that is Eldritch... :)
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What a crazy thread ... :eek: ...

Eldritch has always been way more lucky than Nietzche ever could have ... but he didn't even ask himself to get there ... sorry Pal, but that's just true! After some fifteen years I feel capable to judge where resentment wins over (if only) scientific uprightness (not to mention any humanist uprightness) ... thanks.

Well, large amouts of Nietzsche's insights (for example regards Seneca) are what I'd merely call gossip today ... *not that it didn't take me a while to get there ...
However, that part seems to me represented in Eldritch to a certain degree alike ... :lol: ...

He lost his way, sorry to say ... and I'm definitely way more sorry that happened because it was a cruel, painful, undeserved and slow burn ... I'd move the world to heal that but I obviously can't. Ph, most probably, it's only a nightmare I had recently ... but it made me cry the heart out my soul for years. And yes, I did cry for Nietzsche as well.

And as to the scene of Nietzsche with that horse ... I will never understand how any living being with a heart can not feel at least (if not understand) what moved him.

His disgusting sister who destroyed the very few chances he had and constantly tried to sell him to the Nazis and warm them with him, is actually too disgusting to be mentioned to my taste.

So enough about "philosophy" for today. It's all long past anyway. If we want to start philosophy now, we had better look beyond any Eldritchs or Nietzsches ... maybe just out of the window over the street ... go there and hell even touch "it" ... instead of judge it.
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To misquote the misquote - this thread doesn't thrill me and could it be more wronger.
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