Vision Thing European vs. US version
Hi, I'm new to this forum and probably my question is boring to you. Nevertheless, I realized very late that there were two different versions of the "Vision Thing" album released back in 1990. The US version contains different/longer versions of "Ribbons" and "Dr. Jeep". Which version of the album is better? Thank you!
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ribbons69
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Does it? Didn't know.roma25 wrote: The US version contains different/longer versions of "Ribbons" and "Dr. Jeep".
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Yes, here's the EU version:
1 Vision Thing 4:36
2 Ribbons 5:25
3 Detonation Boulevard 3:49
4 Something Fast 4:36
5 When You Don't See Me 4:51
6 Doctor Jeep 4:39
7 More 8:22
8 I Was Wrong 6:03
... and the US version:
1 Vision Thing 4:35
2 Ribbons 6:08
3 Detonation Boulevard 3:49
4 Something Fast 5:16
5 When You Don't See Me 5:33
6 Doctor Jeep 5:19
7 More 8:22
8 I Was Wrong 6:03
Ah, there are more differences. Longer versions on the US release are "Ribbons", "Something Fast", "When You Don't See Me" and "Doctor Jeep"
1 Vision Thing 4:36
2 Ribbons 5:25
3 Detonation Boulevard 3:49
4 Something Fast 4:36
5 When You Don't See Me 4:51
6 Doctor Jeep 4:39
7 More 8:22
8 I Was Wrong 6:03
... and the US version:
1 Vision Thing 4:35
2 Ribbons 6:08
3 Detonation Boulevard 3:49
4 Something Fast 5:16
5 When You Don't See Me 5:33
6 Doctor Jeep 5:19
7 More 8:22
8 I Was Wrong 6:03
Ah, there are more differences. Longer versions on the US release are "Ribbons", "Something Fast", "When You Don't See Me" and "Doctor Jeep"
Are these timings from actual CDs, or are they reported on the labels and/or Wikipedia? I wouldn't put much trust in them if the latter.
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Mmh, I found different sources. One of them here: http://www.ultimatesistersguide.org/ima ... _back.jpeg
And on discogs.com ...
But, maybe it's just a misprint. Anyway, I would like to listen to a longer version of "Ribbons"
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And on discogs.com ...
But, maybe it's just a misprint. Anyway, I would like to listen to a longer version of "Ribbons"
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I think the time difference on Ribbons owes to one version carrying the last "incoming" over to the start of Detonation Boulevard.
I have both versions so will check tomorrow
I have both versions so will check tomorrow
Aye, that would make sense.robertzombie wrote:I think the time difference on Ribbons owes to one version carrying the last "incoming" over to the start of Detonation Boulevard
It would be quite odd indeed if there were markedly different versions available and it hadn't yet come to light.
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This reminds me a book "Club Dumas" from Arturo Perez-Reverte 
If you haven't read the book, you propably watched the movie "Ninth Gate" directed by Roman Polanski. Johny Depp played in that the main char.
The scenario is if you combine correctly american and european version of VT with the correct versions of the songs, the ninth gate will open
If you haven't read the book, you propably watched the movie "Ninth Gate" directed by Roman Polanski. Johny Depp played in that the main char.
The scenario is if you combine correctly american and european version of VT with the correct versions of the songs, the ninth gate will open
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"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
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That's quite a funny novel! It reminded me a bit of Foucault's Pendulum actually.iesus wrote:This reminds me a book "Club Dumas" from Arturo Perez-Reverte
If you haven't read the book, you propably watched the movie "Ninth Gate" directed by Roman Polanski. Johny Depp played in that the main char.
The scenario is if you combine correctly american and european version of VT with the correct versions of the songs, the ninth gate will open
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The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.
True, A.P.R. read it for sure before start writing Club Dumas
'Are we the Baddies?'...
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
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Unfortunately it turns out I don't own the US CD release, only the two European pressings (9031-72663-2 YS [first CD pressing, I think]) and the widely available 9031-72663-2). Both discs have identical track times, however the 9031-72663-2 disc has noticeably incorrect track times on the back cover for Ribbons, Something Fast, When You Don't See Me, and Doctor Jeep.
It's probable that the US release has the same running times, but also features the incorrect track info.
It's probable that the US release has the same running times, but also features the incorrect track info.
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Oh yeah. If I remember correctly, Eco himself makes a cameo at one point. Not by name, but he's described as something like "a famous bearded Italian professor of semiotics" or some such thing. Haven't read it in years...iesus wrote:True, A.P.R. read it for sure before start writing Club Dumas
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The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.
The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.