tsom vocal duties etc.

claws · 14 Dec 2003, 00:04

When Marx & Eldritch started the band in 1980, it appears like they had no clue about what "they were good at". To me it seems foolish to let Eldritch be the drummer and Marx the vocalist. Didn't Eldritch know that he was a superb vocalist when they started? (he's much much better than Marx). I guess they figured that out after a while.

allfear · 14 Dec 2003, 01:16

Well Everyone has to start somewhere!

Bets

Matt

ryan · 14 Dec 2003, 08:44

hey....it was all punk themdays- nobody needed to know an instrument back then- its was just..punk...noise ra ra ra...

and didnt marx do vocals on poison door and red skys disappear?- a terrible singer...noooooooo

Erudite · 14 Dec 2003, 11:19

ryan_w_0000 wrote:hey....it was all punk themdays- nobody needed to know an instrument back then- its was just..punk...noise ra ra ra...

and didnt marx do vocals on poison door and red skys disappear?- a terrible singer...noooooooo

Poison Door is Eldritch, though I would concede the vocals on RSD are not too shoddy.

ryan · 14 Dec 2003, 12:54

oh of course..thats right- didnt he write the lyrics though?

Erudite · 14 Dec 2003, 13:11

ryan_w_0000 wrote:oh of course..thats right- didnt he write the lyrics though?

He certainly did.

MrChris · 14 Dec 2003, 14:07

Hehe, Eldritch is a superb vocalist... I love the tone of Von's voice, its resonance, and the feeling he can (sometimes) put into it. But if we factor in minor details like 'ability to hold a note' or even 'ability to hit the right note in the first place', he's surely not a superb vocalist by any stretch of the imagination?

claws · 14 Dec 2003, 16:45

Eldritch might be a terrible drummer, but isn't he the one who programs Dr. Avalanche? Apperantly he is good at that.

claws · 14 Dec 2003, 16:46

btw, I din't say that Marx is a terrible singer, just that Eldritch is much better.

James Blast · 14 Dec 2003, 18:43

His vocal histrionics on live versions of On The Wire/Teachers.
My case rests m'lud.

:(

6FeetOver · 14 Dec 2003, 21:06

MrChris wrote:...But if we factor in minor details like 'ability to hold a note' or even 'ability to hit the right note in the first place', he's surely not a superb vocalist by any stretch of the imagination?

OUCH. Yeah, I remember literally cringing during a live rendition of "Comfortably Numb." Cat yowling in agony, anyone?

14 Dec 2003, 23:29

Black Horizon wrote:Marx sang Watch and Home Of The Hitmen, but Von sang The Damage Done didn't he? Am I right?

yep. that is correct.

CellThree · 15 Dec 2003, 00:14

From some interview around the time of Temple 92:

(may have posted this before come to think of it..)

"...Tone deaf. I still am. Even today, if you listen, I've got a way of implying notes rather than singing them. And if it's not in A, I can't sing it anyway. The musicologists among you will notice how many of our songs are in A. It's quite a lot. It is remarkable how much one can make of one's limitations. That's all I've done."

kafka · 15 Dec 2003, 17:27

SINsister wrote:
MrChris wrote:...But if we factor in minor details like 'ability to hold a note' or even 'ability to hit the right note in the first place', he's surely not a superb vocalist by any stretch of the imagination?
OUCH. Yeah, I remember literally cringing during a live rendition of "Comfortably Numb." Cat yowling in agony, anyone?

Eldritch as a singer is much, much better when he actually 'sings' instead of shouting. Unfortunately, he's prone to doing too much of the latter during live performances.

To quote the Silver Jews, though.. "all my favourite singers couldn't sing".. and heck, you should listen to some of *my* stuff some time.

--George

claws · 15 Dec 2003, 17:37

I totally agree, Kafka. Eldritch should do more singing and less shouting at concerts.