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With Chris very much occupied and Ben doing his own thang, what next?
What do you predict is on the horizon?
More festival dates next summer or something bigger?

Mention of a new album is an automatic ban obviously. :twisted: :lol:
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Chris mention on FB EM profile (if i recall it correct) that EM will be back on April. Obviously they're going to record their Pledge album, but i guess that there will be some gigs. Maybe this time they'll come to Whitby, if once again someone will try to lure them with huge pile of money. :wink:
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I reckon we'll see The Sisters pop across the pond for a few shows in the USA.
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Aye; Small tour from ocean to ocean maybe.
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More chance of those than Whitby :D
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Pista wrote:I reckon we'll see The Sisters pop across the pond for a few shows in the USA.
Seconded, plus a few festival gigs in Europe ... :D ...
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Next series of I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here.
Any more of that and we'll be round your front door with the quick-setting whitewash and the shaved monkey.
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stufarq wrote:Next series of I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here.
:lol: :lol:
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With Bradford PA knocked out of the FA Cup and the fencing season over, :von: will certainly have plenty of time to "run and hide" over the winter. Perhaps he'll even find time to write a new song. Or update the website. Or write the book he definitely has in him. etc etc

As for gigs, a couple of festivals will probably keep the cats in Sheba for a wee while, even though it must be a major hassle to get the whole gang together again just for a couple of shows (like this summer). The trials and tribulations of a semi-retired rock star.
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stufarq wrote:Next series of I'm A Celebrity Get Me Out Of Here.
:notworthy: :lol: :notworthy:

Can you imagine? Yikes. :eek:
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Back in 2000 he was invited to be on Banzai. 'The Andrew Eldritch Hitch Hiker Puzzle.'

http://www.the-sisters-of-mercy.com/gen/persuasi.htm the bottom one.
it's so gobsmackingly fatuous that we typed it out for your amazement before throwing it unanswered down the fetid chute marked British Media.
I'm sure an approach from IACGMOOH would be met with a reply similar to that given in the case of Arkell vs Pressdram.
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Banzai was great.

Eldritch's various replies on that page go well beyond not suffering fools or putting idiots in their place and into the territory of simply being staggeringly obnoxious to people in order to feel intellectually superior. The man made some great music but time and again reminds us why we shouldn't idolise pop stars.
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As much as those responses amuse and please me as a reader, I do agree with you sturfag, it's overkill when you consider the original context. Eloquent expression and command of the English language, being a knob who reads books with many fancy words.

The whole point of posting the responses up in the first place (while they have some undeniable entertainment value) may convince some to mistake his attitude as artistic integrity, whereas most of it is just his own ego-smearing.

While I maintain :von: has expressed a great deal of artistic integrity with, say, the care he puts into his lyrics for them truly stand out as fine under intense scrutiny, there's also the flipside to it. Saying no to silly entertainment industry things pales in comparison to that.

If he'd come out and say something to the effect of, "We completed an albums worth of tracks over a decade ago, but couldn't arrive to a mutually satisfactory agreement with virtually any publisher in the industry", I'd give him points for honesty.

What would come across to me artistic integrity would be to say something like, "So, we thought, the Hell with it. We decided to tour (and tour) our Greatest Hits, and I still write lyrics, but I'm not easily persuaded to perform a new 'new' song like Far Parade live. To me, it works better on page. Pretty much like every other lyrics I've written in a long while. So now I'm putting out just the lyrics. Do cover."
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copper wrote:As much as those responses amuse and please me as a reader, I do agree with you sturfag, it's overkill when you consider the original context. Eloquent expression and command of the English language, being a knob who reads books with many fancy words.

The whole point of posting the responses up in the first place (while they have some undeniable entertainment value) may convince some to mistake his attitude as artistic integrity, whereas most of it is just his own ego-smearing.

While I maintain :von: has expressed a great deal of artistic integrity with, say, the care he puts into his lyrics for them truly stand out as fine under intense scrutiny, there's also the flipside to it. Saying no to silly entertainment industry things pales in comparison to that.

If he'd come out and say something to the effect of, "We completed an albums worth of tracks over a decade ago, but couldn't arrive to a mutually satisfactory agreement with virtually any publisher in the industry", I'd give him points for honesty.

What would come across to me artistic integrity would be to say something like, "So, we thought, the Hell with it. We decided to tour (and tour) our Greatest Hits, and I still write lyrics, but I'm not easily persuaded to perform a new 'new' song like Far Parade live. To me, it works better on page. Pretty much like every other lyrics I've written in a long while. So now I'm putting out just the lyrics. Do cover."
Wholly agree here.

The first time I read that page, many moons ago, it was mildly amusing and also proved that Eldo was a language juggler and proud of it.

Now it was re-posted in this thread and I re-read it, a groan escaped me... I mean, if you don't like to do interviews for certain zines or don't want to play in the media circus, just politely refuse and be done with it? Direct your energy to music, not to flame-wars.

It's a difficult comparison (we sell a bit less :lol:), but with our band we had some opportunities we held off because we didn't feel our concept fitted the bill, or we mildly declined an interview because the magazine's "politics" were, to say the least, a bit on the right side of the spectrum, but we never spent our energy writing lengthy letters to stamp said magazine into the ground... it can all backfire on you one day, I always think.

It's a bit... pathetic, isn't it? :?

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I like it. He's so clever.

Maybe it's a bit self-indulgent to post it online, but it's also congruent with the aim of amusing the fans/himself, which I guess is part of the general rationale for the band.
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Fish and Chesney Hawkes both appeared on Banzai. I don't see what his problem is. At least they didn't ask him to judge their "Drink Of the Goths" challenge.

What? I was bored, it was late, alcohol may have been involved...

And if you don't like :von:'s responses to the endless torrent of unsolicited idiocy from the media, you'd hate Victor Lewis Smith. I mean I do anyway, but that's not what I'm saying.
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I only asked what people thought would happen next. :? :lol:
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stufarq wrote:Banzai was great.
Oh come on. It was fatuous racist trash.
stufarq wrote:Eldritch's various replies on that page go well beyond not suffering fools or putting idiots in their place and into the territory of simply being staggeringly obnoxious to people in order to feel intellectually superior.
And that's why it's funny. ;D
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markfiend wrote:
stufarq wrote:Banzai was great.
Oh come on. It was fatuous racist trash.
Not fatuous but absurdist, surreal and, most importantly, a quite accurate parody of real Japanese game shows and betting culture.

I was going to reply that it wasn't racist (and there were all sorts of entirely non-racist things in it that those who go out of their way to be offended would latch on to) but I watched a clip to ensure my memory was correct. I was dismayed to find that portions of the narration were in pidgin. Oddly, Burt Kwouk has a history of doing this later in his career, having played a character in Last Of The Summer Wine who spoke in pidgin.
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stufarq wrote:Eldritch's various replies on that page go well beyond not suffering fools or putting idiots in their place and into the territory of simply being staggeringly obnoxious to people in order to feel intellectually superior.
And that's why it's funny. ;D
If you're twelve years old. Or just lacking in basic social skills.
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Meanwhile, back on topic (just to keep Hom happy, here's an interesting new vacancy which would keep :von: busy over the winter :

http://www.melodicrock.com/phorum52/rea ... msg-919664
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stufarq wrote:
markfiend wrote:
stufarq wrote:Eldritch's various replies on that page go well beyond not suffering fools or putting idiots in their place and into the territory of simply being staggeringly obnoxious to people in order to feel intellectually superior.
And that's why it's funny. ;D
If you're twelve years old. Or just lacking in basic social skills.
:lol: guilty then I suppose.
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centurionofprix wrote:I like it. He's so clever.

Maybe it's a bit self-indulgent to post it online, but it's also congruent with the aim of amusing the fans/himself, which I guess is part of the general rationale for the band.
Eh. It's really just exhibit 3,792 of why no record company will touch him. Unprofessional behavior might be tolerated from an artist with sales in the stratosphere. That's not Von.
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