Mother Russia attacked by meteors = Wow!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-21468116
Apocalypse now (or maybe next week)
-
paint it black
- Black, black, black & even blacker
- Posts: 4966
- Joined: 11 Jul 2002, 01:00
Goths have feelings too
Where's Bruce Willis when you really need him?
Impressive videos in youtube with the meteorites...
In fact reality is far more impressive than hollywood movies in such things
In fact reality is far more impressive than hollywood movies in such things
'Are we the Baddies?'...
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
-
markfiend
- goriller of form 3b
- Posts: 21181
- Joined: 11 Nov 2003, 10:55
- Location: st custards
- Contact:
According to stuff I've read, this was all caused by a meteor about a metre across. Imagine the destruction caused by a big impact!
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
—Bertrand Russell
According to military sites the object was larger and was hit by Moscow's Air defence S-400 missile or something similar.
There is a video with the traces of the meteor and the missile collision tracks in http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... sNPIyxwPlE
There is a video with the traces of the meteor and the missile collision tracks in http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... sNPIyxwPlE
'Are we the Baddies?'...
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
If that's right, that's some pretty good shooting.
-
markfiend
- goriller of form 3b
- Posts: 21181
- Joined: 11 Nov 2003, 10:55
- Location: st custards
- Contact:
I call bull. No way will anyone hit a meteor travelling at 8km/s with anything.iesus wrote:According to military sites the object was larger and was hit by Moscow's Air defence S-400 missile or something similar.
There is a video with the traces of the meteor and the missile collision tracks in http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... sNPIyxwPlE
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
—Bertrand Russell
-
sultan2075
- Overbomber
- Posts: 2379
- Joined: 04 Mar 2005, 19:17
- Location: Washington, D. C.
- Contact:
Why not? It seems (to my liberal-arts educated self) to be technically feasible: trajectory and speed can give you a location at a given point. I guess maybe you're suggesting that it's simply moving too fast for such action to be taken?markfiend wrote:I call bull. No way will anyone hit a meteor travelling at 8km/s with anything.iesus wrote:According to military sites the object was larger and was hit by Moscow's Air defence S-400 missile or something similar.
There is a video with the traces of the meteor and the missile collision tracks in http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... sNPIyxwPlE
--
The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.
The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.
Sultan2075 is correct, it is technically possible to locate that kind of objects with the current means and destroy it before it hits the surface of the planet.
'Are we the Baddies?'...
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
-
markfiend
- goriller of form 3b
- Posts: 21181
- Joined: 11 Nov 2003, 10:55
- Location: st custards
- Contact:
It was a small object (maybe 1 or 2 metres across) coming in out of the sunrise at MACH 25. The "explosion" heard on the videos is a sonic boom (which is what caused the damage; hypersonic shockwaves are what knocked over all the trees at the Tunguska impact) but probably several km high, beyond the range of any surface-to-air missile. By the time anyone had seen the meteor coming, it had probably already disintegrated.
*Edit to add: and I'm not seeing any missile vapour-trails in that (or any other) video...
*Edit to add: and I'm not seeing any missile vapour-trails in that (or any other) video...
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
—Bertrand Russell
As a famous man once said, " It's not impossible. I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home, they're not much bigger than two meters."
Seriously though, I'd say it's technically possible, but would still be a bl00dy good shot to bring something that small down at that speed.
Seriously though, I'd say it's technically possible, but would still be a bl00dy good shot to bring something that small down at that speed.
-
markfiend
- goriller of form 3b
- Posts: 21181
- Joined: 11 Nov 2003, 10:55
- Location: st custards
- Contact:
Yeah, especially when it was travelling at five times the speed of the surface-to-air missile it was supposedly hit by.
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
—Bertrand Russell
Yeah, well there is that.
Unless they were in front of it.
Unless they were in front of it.
-
christophe
- Overbomber
- Posts: 3527
- Joined: 17 Jan 2004, 09:42
- Location: Grinderstreet
if the object was discovered soon enough, I am sure a trajectory could have been made and a rocket could have been fired towards it, before it entered the atmosphere.
just aiming and shooting like some sites claimed is too ridiculous for words
apparently even the army is denying it now.
I'm not saying this is no tragedy but all things considered I think this could have been a lot worse.
just aiming and shooting like some sites claimed is too ridiculous for words
apparently even the army is denying it now.
I'm not saying this is no tragedy but all things considered I think this could have been a lot worse.
Another Shade of You.
-
christophe
- Overbomber
- Posts: 3527
- Joined: 17 Jan 2004, 09:42
- Location: Grinderstreet
I think it EVERYTHING was in front of it until a sew seconds before 'impact'Pista wrote:Yeah, well there is that.
Unless they were in front of it.
Another Shade of You.
Not a bad idea
I suspect WWF, Greenpeace etc.. will turn off the project of mass usage of birds for that kind of purposes
Also the army officers denied that they used air-to-air missiles.
They didn't say anything about ground-to-air toys
I suspect WWF, Greenpeace etc.. will turn off the project of mass usage of birds for that kind of purposes
Also the army officers denied that they used air-to-air missiles.
They didn't say anything about ground-to-air toys
'Are we the Baddies?'...
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
I thought that at least here i can get away from that, even that i spent half of day offline and with no tv or radio (faking polish news channels keep talking about that all day since 7 a.m.).
-
markfiend
- goriller of form 3b
- Posts: 21181
- Joined: 11 Nov 2003, 10:55
- Location: st custards
- Contact:
Apparently it was bigger than was first thought. About 15 metres across. It exploded about 100km up, and it seems that some pieces came to earth.
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
—Bertrand Russell
I read that too. & now there seems to be a spate of "fireball in the sky" sightings all over the place
We're not saying it was aliens............but it was aliens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... XdJ7wm4Opk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... XdJ7wm4Opk
Pista wrote:We're not saying it was aliens............but it was aliens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... XdJ7wm4Opk
Tsoukalos Rulez
'Are we the Baddies?'...
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."