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markfiend
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Conspiracy theory time: Putin's homophobia is well known; is it a coincidence that the plane was carrying over 100 scientists to a HIV/AIDS conference in Melbourne?
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
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—Bertrand Russell
You know, I seriously think that Vlad did a mahoosive face palm when the plane was found to be an airliner.markfiend wrote:Conspiracy theory time: Putin's homophobia is well known; is it a coincidence that the plane was carrying over 100 scientists to a HIV/AIDS conference in Melbourne?
While I am of the opinion he is a vile oxygen thief, I don't think even he would have knowingly ordered the shooting down of this plane.
If he wanted to p!ss the west off, he only needs to turn off the gas supplies.
But this is a clusterfcuk of epic proportions now & as Russia appears to be in some way supporting these militants (not calling them rebels anymore. The Rebels were the good guys in Star Wars) they have to be seen to be co-operating.
Hell, it wouldn't even be so bad if actual Russian troops waded in there & dragged the militants out of the damn way of the investigators.
But the crash site has been messed about with so much now it's going to be hard for them.
What I can't understand is how the press are being given a free run on the site. Especially people like this douche bag.
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You're probably right. I've caught something from the David Icke thread 
FUUUUUUUU! WTF?Pista wrote:What I can't understand is how the press are being given a free run on the site. Especially people like this douche bag.
Because, as you see above, journalists are sometime way too stupid and in some way they (can) help to blur image, stain evidences, while investigators would and could do their job, collect evidences and to other job necessary to find out who, what and how. (and btw. are you so shocked, knowing who's the owner of Sky News?)
What we see now it's a tactical movement - they will not let investigators do their job, and if then investigators will be from Russia, Iran, Cuba(?), North Korea (?), maybe Brazil or China. in the other words only Russian-allies will resolve the case. and other reason is simple: the longer it will take to start resolving this case, the less public (media) will interest that, it's gonna be covered by something else, fresher.
I'm far away not only from conspiracy theory suggested by Mark, but even the one that Bloodymir knew about that or ordered that.
And btw, yes Mark, i notice that this incident covered (a bit) what's going on in Israel. and watch CNN to pissed even more - what a duchjournaklism.
What we see now it's a tactical movement - they will not let investigators do their job, and if then investigators will be from Russia, Iran, Cuba(?), North Korea (?), maybe Brazil or China. in the other words only Russian-allies will resolve the case. and other reason is simple: the longer it will take to start resolving this case, the less public (media) will interest that, it's gonna be covered by something else, fresher.
I'm far away not only from conspiracy theory suggested by Mark, but even the one that Bloodymir knew about that or ordered that.
And btw, yes Mark, i notice that this incident covered (a bit) what's going on in Israel. and watch CNN to pissed even more - what a duchjournaklism.
Give that guy some air, he was only trying to blend in with the locals.
And, Bartek, There's next to nothing to say in compliment for Merkel. But sometimes her total unwillingness to do anything at all is a blessing.
Neither the Uncrainian side, that is partly established by 1488er dirt, nor the rebel side are worth any support.
Balaclavas, vodka and guns.
Idiocy on legs.
F*** all patriotits.
And get back behind me cloak.
And, Bartek, There's next to nothing to say in compliment for Merkel. But sometimes her total unwillingness to do anything at all is a blessing.
Neither the Uncrainian side, that is partly established by 1488er dirt, nor the rebel side are worth any support.
Balaclavas, vodka and guns.
Idiocy on legs.
F*** all patriotits.
And get back behind me cloak.
"These are my principles! And if you don't like the just says so, I have others, too!"
~Rufus T. Firefly
~Rufus T. Firefly
The only thing those "patriotists" achieve from both sides is to divide and split ukraine to pieces.
In real there was never ukraine it was all fiction
In real there was never ukraine it was all fiction
'Are we the Baddies?'...
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
Ukraine exists and existed. Has it own history, territory and language.
Ukraine for last years was fallen country. But that's is pretty common among post-soviet countries (Tajikistan, Uzbekistan).
All what we see and saw, when Ukrainians started to protest when Yanukovich didn't sign Agreement with EU, was cause by Bloodymir policy, he still thinks that Ukraine is/was in Russian sphere of influence.
Fact is that Yanukovich nominated for Minister of Defense guy from Russia (Dmytro Salamatin), who disarmed Ukrainian Army and made them defenseless, that's why they can't fight this so~called Separatists/Rebels/Local Militants as they could if they have proper army properly armed.
Ukraine for last years was fallen country. But that's is pretty common among post-soviet countries (Tajikistan, Uzbekistan).
All what we see and saw, when Ukrainians started to protest when Yanukovich didn't sign Agreement with EU, was cause by Bloodymir policy, he still thinks that Ukraine is/was in Russian sphere of influence.
Fact is that Yanukovich nominated for Minister of Defense guy from Russia (Dmytro Salamatin), who disarmed Ukrainian Army and made them defenseless, that's why they can't fight this so~called Separatists/Rebels/Local Militants as they could if they have proper army properly armed.
You all forgot Rudolf Hess!
Thank you for that answer.
You can come to Mediterranean to stay. There is not much need of Gas in here to pass the winter.
'Are we the Baddies?'...
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
Yeah.Bartek wrote:Thank you for that answer.
In hindsight it does look a bit shiatty.
That kind of reaction - like nothing happened - looks bad not only for Ukraine, but also for: Belarus, Baltic states, Estonia, Kazakhstan and of course Poland. It's like breeding and feeding monster. Now, of course, it doesn't mean that some military forces have to be send there, but words of condemnation and avoiding using other word - invasion - doesn't help either. It reminds a bit Why Die for Danzig?
If you think that Poland has a problem you should arrange ofr a short holiday break in Balkans or Middle East... No offense, but some things are simple distracting from bigger problems.
'Are we the Baddies?'...
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
I don't think that Poland, in first place, has a problem, I'm not loving my country that much 
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I am aware what's going on in Middle East, problem nowadays is that there are more places in the world on fire at the same time. We can't be focused only on one place - we have to remember about everyone, see bigger picture. You live in Balkans, relatively close to Middle East so for you your region is more important, while I'm live few hundreds kilometers up north, so I see this region. It's simple like that.
.I am aware what's going on in Middle East, problem nowadays is that there are more places in the world on fire at the same time. We can't be focused only on one place - we have to remember about everyone, see bigger picture. You live in Balkans, relatively close to Middle East so for you your region is more important, while I'm live few hundreds kilometers up north, so I see this region. It's simple like that.
I have bad news from that part of the world. That time you will not stop them at the gates of Vienna...
'Are we the Baddies?'...
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
Because Muslim extremists are already there, in Vienna, London, Paris and so.
BTW., I don't if you heard that, but IS(IL) planning to get biological weapon.
So Europe can be damaged/attacked by both sides.
BTW., I don't if you heard that, but IS(IL) planning to get biological weapon.
So Europe can be damaged/attacked by both sides.
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eastmidswhizzkid
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a worrying read, but nothing that surprises me.Bartek wrote: BTW., I don't if you heard that, but IS(IL) planning to get biological weapon.
Well I was handsome and I was strong
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"
If I Want, I Will Take Kiev in Two Weeks
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@Iesus: This is something for you, allies, enemies and common interests in fight against Islamic State.
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@Iesus: This is something for you, allies, enemies and common interests in fight against Islamic State.
WSJ's old time classic
The question that is not written in there is "Who helped that Australians, Englishmen, Germans, Austrians and other nations scums playing "Who wants to be an Islamist in Middle East?""
Nice graphs though
The question that is not written in there is "Who helped that Australians, Englishmen, Germans, Austrians and other nations scums playing "Who wants to be an Islamist in Middle East?""
Nice graphs though
'Are we the Baddies?'...
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."