Brimstone and Treacle

[Elfink]

hello folk - this is more a info request not a trade at all - just figured this might be best place to put this one.
Anyone know who the other band is on the Sisters 7" boot Brimstone and Treacle? The band thats singing Whiskey in the Jar?

other query being does anyone know anything about the Jolene / No Time to Cry 7" boot - when was this one released? Is it the Kid Jenson and John Peel session?

Any ideas let me know, ta.

[vince]

hello folk - this is more a info request not a trade at all - just figured this might be best place to put this one.
Anyone know who the other band is on the Sisters 7" boot Brimstone and Treacle? The band thats singing Whiskey in the Jar?

other query being does anyone know anything about the Jolene / No Time to Cry 7" boot - when was this one released? Is it the Kid Jenson and John Peel session?

Any ideas let me know, ta.

Hi,

Try the Sisters Wiki:

http://sisterswiki.org/Brimstone
http://sisterswiki.org/Radio_One_Sessions

Cheers.

[Elfink]

Yeah thanks Vince I took a look there but that Brimstone needs mending if anyone here has access to those pages - Whiskey is not by Thin Lizzy on this record - Any one know who the band is?

[Being645]

I have no idea what band - apart from Thin Lizzy played Whisky In The Yar ...

What is it, you think that oughta be mended? Please let me know .... ... on the other hand ...

YOU can mend it, as soon as you've requested an account ... all easy, give it a try ... ...

As to Jolene/No Time To Cry see
http://sisterswiki.org/Jolene_bw_No_Time_To_Cry

[eastmidswhizzkid]

i have that 7" and it's definitely not thin lizzy playing whiskey in the jar on this record, and it's definitely not the sisters.
my best guess is it's the m*****n (if it's anyone relevant to the sisters at all). otherwise not a clue.

@being645: with regard to the wiki entry you may want to amend the track listing for side a as being "ghostrider/louie louie" as oppposed to what is stated on the record sleeve.

[Being645]

Thanks for the hint, eastmidswhizzkid ... ... I've adjusted that...
http://sisterswiki.org/Brimstone

There is btw a second page about Brimstone & Treacle in The SistersWiki ... due to the fact
that former versions of MediaWiki didn't take "&" in page titles and denied to display and access such pages ...
http://sisterswiki.org/Brimstone_%26_Treacle

[Elfink]

What is it, you think that oughta be mended? Please let me know ....

Well the bit that says Whisky in the Jar by Thin Lizzy is misleading. Needs to say by unknown Artist

... on the other hand ...

YOU can mend it, as soon as you've requested an account ... all easy, give it a try ... ...

@fraid I'm busy trying to tidy up some bits of Discogs - hence these shouts for info here...

As to Jolene/No Time To Cry see
http://sisterswiki.org/Jolene_bw_No_Time_To_Cry

I looked at that but only get the info released late 80s - I'm hoping someone here will remember the year they bought it - when it was released?

[Elfink]

Hello being...looks like we just posted at the same time...

[Elfink]

And no it's not the Mssnioi

[Being645]

@fraid I'm busy trying to tidy up some bits of Discogs ...

Very Good !!! ... ... discogs is an important source ...

As to the release date of Jolene / NTTC:

The labels credit:
- Windfell Prod. 1983 - which cannot be true, since the second track is from John Peel Session 1984!

Btw, I have corrected the dates of the recordings and adjusted the links to the according pages.... ...


Regards "Brimstone & Treacle"
*yes, hihi ... same time ... if it was not the m*****n who played that track
it might have been the sisterhood aka the m*****n ... ... that would have been 1986 ...
so the release date of "late 1980s" seems reasonable ... ...

On the other hand, perhaps it's The Dubliners ... ...

[Elfink]

Thanks eastmids for the ghostrider mention - Discogs ammended now to include this - you know I didn't even play my copy - only that Whisky track to hear who it might be -
Being645 - I love the Dubliners and saw them pretty recently with their new singer - they're still brilliant and no I don't think its the Dubliners but theres more chance of it being a version of the Dubliners than the Misherhood. Its not that band -
And Being645 again - thanks for acknowledging Discogs - I do appreciate that.

[Dan]

Perhaps if you uploaded the track someone else could try and guess? Does it sound like a recording of a live band, or does it perhaps sound like a record being played from the PA after a gig?

[Elfink]

Ah - that kind of stuff is beyond me - I can't even download - I used to long time ago - had this thing called nero but lost computer connection for a few years with some serious house trouble then when I got back to it it had all changed - good idea though - I do wish I could just click a few buttons and upload it here...

[Dan]

Ah ok. Well someone is bound to have it. Maybe someone else can provide the track?

[Dan]

I've been emailed the track.

And it's an audience recording from this gig...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw4o8WunnBA

Members of Thin Lizzy with Gary Moore and Bono and others.
Self Aid, RDS Arena, Ballsbridge, Dublin, 1986.05.17.

The bit on the bootleg starts at 3:16.

[eastmidswhizzkid]

nice one Dan, always wondered who it was. i'm surprised to hear it was thin lizzy after all, but i feel justified in my opinion that it definitely wasn't thin lizzy as phil lynott -thin lizzy's singer- died 4 months before and it obviously isn't his distinctive voice singing on it. what the fuck it has to do with the sisters though i really have no idea whatsoever.

[abridged]

nice one Dan, always wondered who it was. i'm surprised to hear it was thin lizzy after all, but i feel justified in my opinion that it definitely wasn't thin lizzy as phil lynott -thin lizzy's singer- died 4 months before and it obviously isn't his distinctive voice singing on it. what the fuck it has to do with the sisters though i really have no idea whatsoever.

Maybe was on stage. He was on a Garry Moore album if I remember rightly. Bit of a long shot I know...

[markfiend]

So what's 's Black Sabbath number then?

I take it we know how this works? It's like the Kevin Bacon number - if you've been in Sabbath, your Black Sabbath number is 1; otherwise it's 1+ the lowest BS number of anyone you've ever been in a band with.

[eastmidswhizzkid]

[Elfink]

I've been emailed the track.

And it's an audience recording from this gig...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dw4o8WunnBA

Members of Thin Lizzy with Gary Moore and Bono and others.
Self Aid, RDS Arena, Ballsbridge, Dublin, 1986.05.17.

The bit on the bootleg starts at 3:16.

Dan thats amazing - spot on -

Thanks for the detective work.

[Randall Flagg]

what the fuck it has to do with the sisters though i really have no idea whatsoever.

Well, the muppets (I'm being kind here) who made this record came across a Sisters tape that had been re used. Common practice in the 80's record fair days - tape sellers would recycle their stock, new audio trf onto what was probably a TDK D add a new xerox cover and last weeks 'stiff' becomes this weeks 'hot seller'.

What they failed to spot was that the band in question was not the Sisters until they started selling it/trading it with other dealers at which point it became a something of a joke/curiosity.

Some people made bootlegs of the Sisters as they loved the band;
Some people made bootlegs of the Sisters as they loved money;
Some people loved both:

go figure which camp this crew were in.

Flagg

[Being645]

Another interesting question would be the origin of that .... "wonderful" picture on the cover front ... ...

[Randall Flagg]

Another interesting question would be the origin of that .... "wonderful" picture on the cover front ... ...

are you sure you want to know.....

Bottom left - credited to Nigel - from what I can recall said Nigel was an art school acquaintance of the Muppet's hell - he may even have been a Muppet - its a long time ago.

Flagg

[Being645]

Another interesting question would be the origin of that .... "wonderful" picture on the cover front ... ...

are you sure you want to know.....

Flagg

Only for the files ... the back cover and the labels look pretty enough, but the front ... ...

Btw, is "brimstone and treacle" some sort of standing English expression used more often in any specific context?

[czuczu]

Btw, is "brimstone and treacle" some sort of standing English expression used more often in any specific context?

It's the title of a Dennis Potter play.