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Swinnow wrote:We decided during our college days, back in prehistory, that the choice of HP or Ketchup was a dead good guide as to someone's origin.
We still refer to Ketchup as Southern Sauce and Brown Sauce as Northern Sauce.

I like the HP Fruity on a bacon and egg batch or is it called a barm or a bun or a bread roll :?
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More food-based thread derailing lol.

It's a batch back home on Murkeyside, but a tea cake here in Leeds.
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and when is a bun a butty? as a californian, my education is lacking in these matters.
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EmmaPeelWannaBe wrote:and when is a bun a butty? as a californian, my education is lacking in these matters.
A butty is usually two pieces of bread with a filling in the middle
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Swinnow wrote:
but a tea cake here in Leeds.
and is a tea cake, not in fact cake?
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In England a butty is a sandwich but in Welsh Wales it means a friend.
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Swinnow wrote:In England a butty is a sandwich but in Welsh Wales it means a friend.
now that is just nuts. and like to end in cannibalism.
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EmmaPeelWannaBe wrote:
Swinnow wrote:
but a tea cake here in Leeds.
and is a tea cake, not in fact cake?
That's a rabbit hole you don't want to go down :lol:
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Yeah, we've been here before, mind you, a few sandwich shops in north Leeds got some free advertising lol
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EmmaPeelWannaBe wrote:and when is a bun a butty? as a californian, my education is lacking in these matters.
A butty is usually two pieces of bread with a filling in the middle
But critically the bread must be buttered, otherwise it's just a...bready.

And just to confuse the issue further, a butty is also a type of unpowered narrowboat/canal barge.
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Critical questions:

1. To Dunk or not To Dunk?
2. Mug or Cup?
3. Chocolate - is it the top or the bottom?
4. Can I have a fag?
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My question would be; what happened to him after Vision Thing? I mean after that his creativity, his musical energy or motivation seemed to have gone.
It´s interesting, because when you compare rockmusicians with, say, classiccomposers, you will see that the rockmusicians tend to peak musically and energywise in their twenties, although composers in their later lifes. Different mindscape? Sexual drives and narcissity? A more mathematical approach of the composers instead the more gutsy rockmusicians?
That would be my question.
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EvilBastard wrote:Critical questions:

1. To Dunk or not To Dunk?
2. Mug or Cup?
3. Chocolate - is it the top or the bottom?
4. Can I have a fag?
5. Ginger Nuts - yes or no?
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EmmaPeelWannaBe wrote:
EvilBastard wrote:Critical questions:

1. To Dunk or not To Dunk?
2. Mug or Cup?
3. Chocolate - is it the top or the bottom?
4. Can I have a fag?
5. Ginger Nuts - yes or no?
1. Not
2. Mug
3. Top
4. Definitely yes
5. No
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SmileySister wrote:
EmmaPeelWannaBe wrote:
EvilBastard wrote:Critical questions:


5. Ginger Nuts - yes or no?
5. No
Inside knowledge, Smiley?
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EmmaPeelWannaBe wrote:
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EmmaPeelWannaBe wrote: 5. No
Inside knowledge, Smiley?
Can I plead the 5th Amendment?
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SmileySister wrote:
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SmileySister wrote: Inside knowledge, Smiley?
Can I plead the 5th Amendment?
Only if you're in the U.S.
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An wrote:My question would be; what happened to him after Vision Thing? I mean after that his creativity, his musical energy or motivation seemed to have gone.
It´s interesting, because when you compare rockmusicians with, say, classiccomposers, you will see that the rockmusicians tend to peak musically and energywise in their twenties, although composers in their later lifes. Different mindscape? Sexual drives and narcissity? A more mathematical approach of the composers instead the more gutsy rockmusicians?
That would be my question.
Thank you. an interesting question amongst the detritus. I too wonder why the apathy set in, a spat with a record company seems a handy excuse for a complete lack of creative output from UTG onwards. Maybe he just can't be bothered, and if that's the case we are not talking about a real artist are we.
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zaltys7 wrote:
An wrote:My question would be; what happened to him after Vision Thing? (etc).
Thank you. an interesting question amongst the detritus. I too wonder why the apathy set in, a spat with a record company seems a handy excuse for a complete lack of creative output from UTG onwards. Maybe he just can't be bothered, and if that's the case we are not talking about a real artist are we.
Getting a bit off topic, but I find art and its purpose (both the creation and the consumption) fascinating. I'm not sure that Andrew, now or ever, fits the bill for an artist who has given up on creating art, but must that always mean that they aren't a true artist? Couldn't that be the end state of expression? The knowledge and acceptance that conveying something meaningful is not possible?

At any rate, most humans would answer nuanced questions like this differently depending on mood and circumstance. It's impossible to get "truth" in a static answer (or an interview for that matter) but you can learn various things in a conversation.
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I would ask, over a bottle of fine (Texas) whisky:

a) What makes you think you understand Hegel?

b) What do you make Georg to actually mean?

c) Shall we open another bottle?

d) Do you think Hegel's influence has been pernicious or otherwise?

(For the record: I'm not a fan of Hegel, to put it mildly. I'd like to think I understand his thought enough to appreciate it, but the metaphysics are, to my mind, all kinds of wrong).
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a) What makes you think you understand Hegel?

Has he actually stated that he does? If he has then maybe the master-slave dialectic might reflect his woes with the music industry and some musicians :)

b) What do you make Georg to actually mean? c) Shall we open another bottle?

Taking these together would he even give the time of day to Georg given that he can apparently be "out consumed by Hume"? :D
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when you were at the height of your sartorial impactfulness, and the sisters were at their hugest in terms of their public image, when all the (fat-in-crushed-velvet) goth birds wanted to look like patsy, and all the (painfully thin and pimply) goth boys wanted to look like you, was the decision to lose one of your gloves deliberate? because if ilooked a right cunt in one edwardian ladies dress glove, so did you. :P
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Chaotican wrote:
zaltys7 wrote:
An wrote:My question would be; what happened to him after Vision Thing? (etc).
Thank you. an interesting question amongst the detritus. I too wonder why the apathy set in, a spat with a record company seems a handy excuse for a complete lack of creative output from UTG onwards. Maybe he just can't be bothered, and if that's the case we are not talking about a real artist are we.
Getting a bit off topic, but I find art and its purpose (both the creation and the consumption) fascinating. I'm not sure that Andrew, now or ever, fits the bill for an artist who has given up on creating art, but must that always mean that they aren't a true artist? Couldn't that be the end state of expression? The knowledge and acceptance that conveying something meaningful is not possible?

IAt any rate, most humans would answer nuanced questions like this differently depending on mood and circumstance. It's impossible to get "truth" in a static answer (or an interview for that matter) but you can learn various things in a conversation.
totally understand where you come from. BUT at the same time an artist must surely create? I see no creation, or at least I see no will to create meaningfully. I hear a bunch of half arsed songs on dodgy bootlegs. Okay, so he no longer has anything relevant to say, in which case, stop pretending you have, and shut the f**k up.
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