Uncredited co-producer of Vision Thing album: Tsangarides?

I Am The Jaw · 26 Feb 2011, 16:21

I was looking at the client recording log of Puk Studios in Denmark (where the Vision Thing album was recorded)...it lists the producer of the Vision Thing sessions as Eldritch/Tsangarides...

Who is this Mr Tsangarides and why wasn't he credited in the 'official' credits for the album?

mandrake · 26 Feb 2011, 16:31

this? scroll down...
http://www.audioauthority.co.uk/christsangarides.html

Bartek · 26 Feb 2011, 16:32

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Tsangarides

and i don't know whay he isn't credited.
edith: too late.

I Am The Jaw · 26 Feb 2011, 16:34

mandrake wrote:this? scroll down...
http://www.audioauthority.co.uk/christsangarides.html

Okay, good find! So why wasn't he credited in the Vision Thing credits?

I mean, if I co-produced and engineered a recording and the band didn't credit me for it I would be majorly pissed off.

Bartek · 26 Feb 2011, 16:37

this track were on "when you don't see me' (single) and there he's credited.

I Am The Jaw · 26 Feb 2011, 16:39

Bartek wrote:this track were on "when you don't see me' (single) and there he's credited.

Okay, thanks for the info Bartek!

Ed Rhombus · 27 Feb 2011, 00:18

He's probably still helping Anvil with their comeback.

Syberberg · 28 Feb 2011, 06:21

If memory serves....

Chris Tsangarides was called in to produce a live album that was to be recorded on the Vision Thing Tour. This, sadly, never bore fruit except for two live recordings that made it onto the B-Side of "When You Don't See Me", those songs being "Ribbons" and "Something Fast". He had no involvement with the recording/production of "Vision Thing" itself.

The thing I can't remember is if it was an interview in an issue of UTR or a general press interview where this information was revealed....my head says it was in reply to a question about a live album in the letters section of UTR, but I can't be 100% positive about that and don't have access to my UTR collection (unless I go digging around in boxes in the garage. Again). If anyone can get to their copies of UTR, can you clarify please?

From Puk Studio's website:

The Sisters Of Mercy
Andrew Eldritch / Mark Freegard / David Z

and lower down:

Helloween
Chris Tsangarides

Balam · 28 Feb 2011, 10:15

I have looked but can not see anything, saying that though it's probably there somewhere but i don't have the time to read them cover to cover (although i want to now)

Being645 · 28 Feb 2011, 10:56

Apart from Issue XIII, UTR is stored completely in HL Photo Gallery ...

..

http://www.myheartland.co.uk/gallery/

panzerfaust · 28 Feb 2011, 13:36

he did a nice some nice remix work for depeche mode back in the 80s

Syberberg · 01 Mar 2011, 06:53

Being645 wrote:Apart from Issue XIII, UTR is stored completely in HL Photo Gallery ... ..

http://www.myheartland.co.uk/gallery/

They are? Oh dear, I've been away too long

Right then, I have plenty of time on my hands, so I'll start reading. Time to head on up the river.

The horror. The horror...

EDIT: Finished reading and I was wrong (sic). Nothing at all in UTR. But I did find this.

I'll keep looking and see what I can find.

AdrenaChris · 16 Mar 2011, 12:31

Just noticed this guy's name on the back of Killing Joke's "Brighter Than A Thousand Suns" (original cd version), on the track "A Southern Sky"

iesus · 16 Mar 2011, 12:38

Back in 90's, i bought a series of small singles, among them the one mentioned by Syberberg. Unfortunatelly i didn't had the money to buy them all

I remember the name of Chris Tsangarides was mentioned in 2 more of that singles in live recordings.
Chris also worked for many other rock and metal bands at this period. I remember him as a sound guru in recordings.

Spiggy's hat · 08 Jan 2018, 08:11

Sadly passed away over the weekend.

RIP Chris.

Drsisters · 08 Jan 2018, 10:03

RIP Chris, he was a very kind guy. He took some time to answer a few questions I always had about the When You Don't See Me B-sides.

He said that The Sisters live was a impressive momentum and that he enjoyed recording the shows in Hamburg.

On my question about what he thought of Andrew, he said that he is kinda the rock'n roll version of Sheldon Cooper.

Being645 · 08 Jan 2018, 11:31

...

... a lovely description ...
No wonder he got on well with so many people.
Passing at 61 is early ... RIP Chris Tsangarides.

eastmidswhizzkid · 08 Jan 2018, 13:30

this mans name has been tagged to so many bands and albums that i love over the years. a very talented guy who's skills will be much missed in the industry. RIP Chris.

iesus · 08 Jan 2018, 15:40

Sad news for music in general.
Rip Χρήστο Τσανγκαρίδη

Btw anyone knows what happened to the rest of the material he recorded in tSoM concerts during that time?

Drsisters · 08 Jan 2018, 18:02

iesus wrote:Sad news for music in general.
Rip Χρήστο Τσανγκαρίδη

Btw anyone knows what happened to the rest of the material he recorded in tSoM concerts during that time?

He told me that he recorded 16,17 and 18th of November @ the docks in Hamburg. He and Andrew remixed everything in a studio, Andrew kept the DAT tapes.

So we can assume that we never ever will see a full release of these concerts, sadly...

Being645 · 08 Jan 2018, 18:33

Drsisters wrote:
iesus wrote:Sad news for music in general.
Rip Χρήστο Τσανγκαρίδη

Btw anyone knows what happened to the rest of the material he recorded in tSoM concerts during that time?
He told me that he recorded 16,17 and 18th of November @ the docks in Hamburg. He and Andrew remixed everything in a studio, Andrew kept the DAT tapes.

So we can assume that we never ever will see a full release of these concerts, sadly...

Maybe part of it went in here https://sisterswiki.org/Knockin'_On_Docks'_Door

Drsisters · 08 Jan 2018, 20:23

Being645 wrote:
Drsisters wrote:
iesus wrote:Sad news for music in general.
Rip Χρήστο Τσανγκαρίδη

Btw anyone knows what happened to the rest of the material he recorded in tSoM concerts during that time?
He told me that he recorded 16,17 and 18th of November @ the docks in Hamburg. He and Andrew remixed everything in a studio, Andrew kept the DAT tapes.

So we can assume that we never ever will see a full release of these concerts, sadly...
Maybe part of it went in here https://sisterswiki.org/Knockin'_On_Docks'_Door

Knocking On Dock's Door is a s**t audience recording.. CT had a real recording rig for this job.. a mobile recording rig of some sort...

08 Jan 2018, 20:26

Drsisters wrote:
hired by WEA for $$$

Not English Zloty then?

Drsisters · 08 Jan 2018, 20:29

Pista wrote:
Drsisters wrote:
hired by WEA for $$$
Not English Zloty then?

Might have been the case

jost 7 · 08 Jan 2018, 20:58

Drsisters wrote:
Being645 wrote:
Drsisters wrote: He told me that he recorded 16,17 and 18th of November @ the docks in Hamburg. He and Andrew remixed everything in a studio, Andrew kept the DAT tapes.

So we can assume that we never ever will see a full release of these concerts, sadly...
Maybe part of it went in here https://sisterswiki.org/Knockin'_On_Docks'_Door

Knocking On Dock's Door is a s**t audience recording.. CT had a real recording rig for this job.. a mobile recording rig of some sort...

for sure a pity this will never see the light of the day. the two tracks are not really representing the live sound, but a dream version, which is great, especially nearly 30 years later