Tours 2018/19
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- Amphetamine Filth
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Ben's been out a while, he was touring with Nathan Grey for the last lot of US Ghost dates.
Plus, Chris touring with Geist from late October to mid-December.d0gbones wrote:Most of September's out - Ben's touring with PIG.
For sure, there's the off-chance that will "really shake things up" and resurrect his olden idea (mid-90's) to perform solely with the Doc.
All the while sounding spacious like The Comsat Angels
That would be wet dream/joke come true. And how much money-saving would it be.
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Would the money savng steps be enough to require the opening of the vaults beneath west Leeds that contain the live recordings and nearly complete studio sessions? I doubt it, well not until hell ices over or the idiotic brexit provokes huge cat food inflation above the chemist.
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I thought all these things sadly burnt down in Adam's house ... ...Swinnow wrote:Would the money savng steps be enough to require the opening of the vaults beneath west Leeds that contain the live recordings and nearly complete studio sessions? I doubt it, well not until hell ices over or the idiotic brexit provokes huge cat food inflation above the chemist.
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I'd love that so, so much, but I'm also kind of enjoying having money to spend so if none of them can do anything remotely interesting for a while, that'd be great. Eureka Machines is fine because I needed an excuse to go to York.copper wrote:For sure, there's the off-chance that will "really shake things up" and resurrect his olden idea (mid-90's) to perform solely with the Doc.
(Are we allowed to talk about the spooky mask thing now, or nah? Their names seem to be pretty widely out there now anyway..?)
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As you ask... £300 per guitarist per gig is a figure I've heardBartek wrote:That would be wet dream/joke come true. And how much money-saving would it be.
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Is it just me to does that seem low?markfiend wrote:As you ask... £300 per guitarist per gig is a figure I've heardBartek wrote:That would be wet dream/joke come true. And how much money-saving would it be.
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Well, their appeal is more selective nowadays. OK, not yet at Puppet Show support slot level, but I wouldn't be surprised at such a figure. Make sure you buy the tee shirts kids
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Time for TSOM: a Jazz Odyssey?
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The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.
The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.
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There is also the 'silent disco' option - here the audience wear headphones ans the stage area is smogged to hell with dry ice and backlit big style. Puts the computers to full use and avoids all complications like paying musicians and singing. Win / win
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Thwy tried silent gigs in 2006, just skimped on the audience headphones..Swinnow wrote:There is also the 'silent disco' option - here the audience wear headphones ans the stage area is smogged to hell with dry ice and backlit big style. Puts the computers to full use and avoids all complications like paying musicians and singing. Win / win
Wasn't it more 2008/9 they broke the volume knob off the mx desk?czuczu wrote:Thwy tried silent gigs in 2006, just skimped on the audience headphones..Swinnow wrote:There is also the 'silent disco' option - here the audience wear headphones ans the stage area is smogged to hell with dry ice and backlit big style. Puts the computers to full use and avoids all complications like paying musicians and singing. Win / win
Dunno, I gave up for a while after 2006 - that Astoria show was one of the all time worst things ever. It all got a bit depressing until that Leamington Spa gig raised the bar a little.Pista wrote:Wasn't it more 2008/9 they broke the volume knob off the mx desk?czuczu wrote:Thwy tried silent gigs in 2006, just skimped on the audience headphones..Swinnow wrote:There is also the 'silent disco' option - here the audience wear headphones ans the stage area is smogged to hell with dry ice and backlit big style. Puts the computers to full use and avoids all complications like paying musicians and singing. Win / win
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Yeah the then Ms Swinnow gave up on Sisters gigs around the same time as "they all got a bit samey", she returned for XXX at Leeds Poly and "the cakes were a nice touch". Guess we'll still ask if she wants to go in 2019.
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You had to remind me and set me off again about that didn't you?Pista wrote:Wasn't it more 2008/9 they broke the volume knob off the mx desk?czuczu wrote:Thwy tried silent gigs in 2006, just skimped on the audience headphones..Swinnow wrote:There is also the 'silent disco' option - here the audience wear headphones ans the stage area is smogged to hell with dry ice and backlit big style. Puts the computers to full use and avoids all complications like paying musicians and singing. Win / win
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If you're playing, let say, 20 gigs tour that (£300 x 2) x 20 gives nice and round figures. . Not to mention, less money spend on accomodation during tour(s) for such hired hands and possibilty to hire smaller (cheaper?) bus. Plus, you get rid off HR complications (you know, dealing with [blah] people [blah]).markfiend wrote:As you ask... £300 per guitarist per gig is a figure I've heardBartek wrote:That would be wet dream/joke come true. And how much money-saving would it be.
But i'm not insisting that is what's going to happen or what is in his mind. It's just next - logical - step after crossing bass and keyboard players from payroll.
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PIG is touring America this fall and Ben was his guitarist for the promo of the album in London.That being said,he might very well be in the line up for the upcoming tour
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Ben is confirmed for the upcoming PIG tour, both om his Facebook and the official PIG.
Depends.sultan2075 wrote:Is it just me to does that seem low?markfiend wrote:As you ask... £300 per guitarist per gig is a figure I've heardBartek wrote:That would be wet dream/joke come true. And how much money-saving would it be.
Patsy said she was paid £300 a month in 1988.
That's around £780 today, as opposed a 20-date tour with ~£6.000 income before taxes.
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...and i'd do it for me tea and drugs.
Well I was handsome and I was strong
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"
I'd still take the gig, if no one minds a transgender woman with a serious effect pedal problem, and fond memories of learning all of Vision Thing in one night with speed involved many moons ago.
I can play Temple Of Love the proper way (and sing it at the same time!), and my version of Ribbons is heavier than yours.
Dream gig; I'd do it for peanuts.
I can play Temple Of Love the proper way (and sing it at the same time!), and my version of Ribbons is heavier than yours.
Dream gig; I'd do it for peanuts.
Left at the dead badger.