"I was wrong"
Name some things Von was wrong about.
I'll start with Suede, whom he dismissed (in the Bowie interview) as mere Ziggy rip-off merchants. Of course, Ziggy and 70's glam were influences - so what? Now looking back over Suede's career (and even at the time - has Von ever even heard, let alone listened to Dog Man Star?) there's no question about them being a highly distinct and justifiably acclaimed band.
Oh, and while we're at it, he was wrong about '1. Outside' as well and still is, apparently. There are some great songs on that album, by any standard. 'Strangers When We Meet' alone is a candidate for Bowie's best song.
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Absolutely... ... that record is a clear masterpiece. And very necessary at the time.XidiouX wrote:
[...] he was wrong about '1. Outside' as well. There are some great songs on that album, by any standard. 'Strangers When We Meet' alone is a candidate for Bowie's best song.
Though 'Strangers When We Meet' is not on all the standard releases, AFAIK, so he might have missed it ... ...
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He was wrong, he was wrong to ever doubt.
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Fortunately, he can get along without, so nothing to see herePurple Light wrote:He was wrong, he was wrong to ever doubt.
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Contractual fulfillment via a ripping live album recorded in 1997-1998. Wasn't there even talk about the Dark Christmas in London show having been recorded for just such a purpose?XidiouX wrote:> He was wrong to go on strike..
Interesting. What would you suggest he should have done instead?
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When was the one-off in Philadelphia? I'm getting old. Can't recall. That incarnation of the band could have made a stonking live record.XidiouX wrote:It would have to have been earlier than that. 1997 was the SSV/War on Drugs year.
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The most successful tyranny is not the one that uses force to assure uniformity but the one that removes the awareness of other possibilities, that makes it seem inconceivable that other ways are viable, that removes the sense that there is an outside.
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https://sisterswiki.org/Sat,_28-Jun-1997 ... Dark Harvest Festival Philadelphia / Distance Over Time Toursultan2075 wrote:When was the one-off in Philadelphia? I'm getting old. Can't recall. That incarnation of the band could have made a stonking live record.XidiouX wrote:It would have to have been earlier than that. 1997 was the SSV/War on Drugs year.
Hamburg '90 was recorded for release.sultan2075 wrote:Contractual fulfillment via a ripping live album recorded in 1997-1998. Wasn't there even talk about the Dark Christmas in London show having been recorded for just such a purpose?XidiouX wrote:> He was wrong to go on strike..
Interesting. What would you suggest he should have done instead?
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Suede has always been a class a band. I couldnt share his criticism here. Glam Rock sounds more like T. Rex (htats really a bit s**t) but Suede is a lot more than that, with lots of grat stuff b sides (painted People and so on)
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He professed a love of Man Utd. Draw your own conclusions.Purple Light wrote:He was wrong
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Worse than allegedly being a Man Utd fan, he then changed teams and is now apparently a fan of Dirty Leeds. No grown man can do this and carry his head high.
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I call s**t on that one.Swinnow wrote:Worse than allegedly being a Man Utd fan, he then changed teams and is now apparently a fan of Dirty Leeds. No grown man can do this and carry his head high.
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Norman Hunter wrote:I call s**t on that one.Swinnow wrote:Worse than allegedly being a Man Utd fan, he then changed teams and is now apparently a fan of Dirty Leeds. No grown man can do this and carry his head high.
Man Utd top on stage. Had a scarf around his waist too, the day after he watched them at the 91 European Cup Winners final.
Best show I ever saw them play and we have Man Utd to thank for it.
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There's a lot to thank Manchester United for. Imagine how much extra bile there'd be circulating round people's brains if they hadn't had United to direct it at over the last 20 years.
As for Von, Chairman Bux posted on here years ago that his on-off support switched off permanently when they became a PLC in 92. So, a glory hunter from the days when they were anything but, deserves a peculiar sort of respect for that, I suppose.
It is nice to observe that all the muppets are wearing Liverpool and city shirts these days, I must say. You're welcome to them.
As for Von, Chairman Bux posted on here years ago that his on-off support switched off permanently when they became a PLC in 92. So, a glory hunter from the days when they were anything but, deserves a peculiar sort of respect for that, I suppose.
It is nice to observe that all the muppets are wearing Liverpool and city shirts these days, I must say. You're welcome to them.
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My point exactly. No f*cker comes back from that. Anyway, I digress - on with the thread...czuczu wrote:Man Utd top on stage.
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Von was wrong to let through the keyhole do a tv special . The cats out of the bag as the program revealed that the Reptilian Rock Gog is really a closet Stamp collecting , Soap Binge watcher . His cd collection revealed a passion for Brotherhood of Man and Max Bygraves
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You never saw a copy of Salad Daze?