Yggdrasil wrote:Being645 wrote:For me this whole thread is just another disappointment of this fanbase. .
So attempting to discuss why the band's live sound is lacking these days disappoint you? .
>>> As if it were the very first time this discussion has come up ... don't quote my words out of context!<<<
Yggdrasil wrote:I and others who feel the same way are not real fans? .
>>> I have never ever in all the years of this ever same discussion said such a thing. And I never would.
In return it's me who is regularly named and shamed, because I don't have a problem with The Sisters' live performances and the natural issues that live performances bring with them and because I don't call them s**t or messy or a let-down or all those - in my view (yeah, it's an opinion, too) - unfair judgements regarding the effort they make.<<<
Yggdrasil wrote:That's the first time I've ever been called that. I've been a diehard SoM fan since I first heard Alice right when it came out, and have followed the band in all its incarnations since then, and have enjoyed them all. But apparently that doesn't allow me to hold any opinions on the band beyond pure adoration.
>>> You see, you do it as well .. “pure adoration�? But you are only one in a hundred so-called die-hards trying to shame me and devaluate my opinion in this and other ways. And it happens even when I don’t say a word. And yes, I think the way people talk about those of other opinion (especially those who are not ranting against The Sisters) here (and probably even more elsewhere) is just nasty and degrading. And no, this time I won't let it pass with out reaction. I won't ignore that sort of underlying personal attack uncommented any longer. You are only one expample of what I've been presented here with for my opinion and for not joining the chorus (or is it FB?), and yes, I don't find it funny any longer. Every person with a brain can clearly see, that The Sisters are not perfect (fortunately). But with words like “pure adoration� you intent to blackmail people into to saying, oh, no, no ... see, here, this is what I find s**t about that band. So that you can claim later EVERYBODY agrees, they are s**t. But you won't get that from me. Face it and respect my opinion!!! Or don't. You claim you (and your plenty friends of the same opinion) are in the majority here, anyway, and it will surely make you many more friends to mistreat me than to respect me, won’t it. Definitely on Facebook. And not only that: you shouldn't show too much sympathy for me in order not to lose points on the die-hard real fan board. I know it and you know it and everybody knows it.<<<
Yggdrasil wrote:Being645 wrote: The last tour was the best we've seen in decades ... with a new guitarist, new songs, Von's voice improved (until that idiot cold hit him in Wroclaw) and the mood and attitude of the band all played hand in hand and changed into a more than welcome optimitistic direction ...
I happen to agree with this, if that means anything to you. But that doesn't change the fact that they live sound is letting the band down. They could easily be so much better, just with better sound. As utterly anal as Von is with production, I'm surprised he's letting the live sound slide like this.
>>> You can be sure that Von is not always satisfied with their performances and does what he can (like all other members of the band) to make things better. When you go to the shows and watch the band play you can see how they feel about it (unless you're too drunk or too busy checking with your expectations).
But anyway – and this is personal opinion - you’re only playing the reasonable one here. I don’t believe a word of this petty pretence. Your agenda is to be the master of opinion regarding The Sisters. You (and your friends) want to make the band feel they have an unusually large problem and you want to convince everybody else to think so too, to listen sharply, to find fault with them and reason to be disappointed with an experience that didn’t bear any disappointment in the encounter at all. I’ve been watching this nasty strategy for years. And I wouldn’t wonder, if you were one of those who on Wikipedia deny that band a continued existence or who shout “buuh� at the gigs when they dare to perform tracks that Wayne was involved writing. Yeah, that is the ugly face of the so-called die-hard Sisters scene I have seen ... all the time, again and again, and again. And now, The Sisters's sound is bad again, the guitars ... bla ... phh. Anal. Yeah, anal in the will to convince the world that The Sisters’ are one band to find fault with, most importantly.
Did they have some success recently? Have the opinions changed on the various internet platforms? Was the majority happy with what they’ve heard and seen? Too often the word “great� for your taste?!<<<
Yggdrasil wrote:Being645 wrote: and I still hear you all scream with satisfaction in the vids of the second London night and at other gigs ... and what comes now, only few weeks later, in return?
Eh? One is not allowed to enjoy a concert, and still have opinions about it?
>>> Another imputation. Set as a question, but you know what you're doing to me, aren't you? You paint me as someone - again - who won't allow for other people's opinion. Because I've reminded you of how people actually reacted to the bad, bad sound of The Sisters during this tour. What a sad trick. <<<
Yggdrasil wrote:Being645 wrote: Bla, the sound is bad. Bla, Von's voice is broken, Bla, the guitars are weak and boring ...
All true. Is all this unimportant to you? Speaking of being a fan, and all that. In my mind, it means someone who cares deeply about a band. I do. That's why I also have opinions about them, and I wish they would always shine as brightly as possible.
>>> True in your opinion and even more in your will. And in my opinion, this is the standard bla coming up every year and no, I do not believe that every human has good intentions ... wishing the band to shine as bright as ... Emma, possibly?! Gush ...<<<
Yggdrasil wrote:Being645 wrote: bla any other old act is miles better than that ...
Now, nobody said anything of the sort, did they?
>>> 'Oh you are the defender of the true, now. They will all be your friends, believe me, or brothers in sin at least, but hell, that's cool, isn't it.<<<
Yggdrasil wrote:But most (all) other bands have better live sound than the Sisters have, which is a shame.
>>> That is just an (untrue) assertion. And a shame, indeed, how you try to present it as the eternal truth to push through your views as the final opinion.<<<
Yggdrasil wrote: Being645 wrote: bla, bla, bla ... each year the same, while The Sisters are doing the best they can to please you ...
I sincerely hope that Von NEVER does anything to "please" us fans, ever.
>>> Now you contradict yourself, entirely. And your motives are obvious, but I spare you the shame to name them. Face yourself.<<<
Yggdrasil wrote:I prefer artistic integrity and vision, no matter how idiosyncratic (or rather, the more the better).
>>> That is just another trick of yours. As if anyone would prefer anything else. Did you forget you are here to complain about the oh so problematic Sisters sound? How comes?.<<<
Yggdrasil wrote:Being645 wrote: phh. I feel very, very sorry for your very little ears and little hearts.
Anyway, you might wholeheartedly go on now with that idiocy. I won't look again at this sad treat.
You really make an effort to make friends and listen to other people, don't you? At least I'm glad we have your permission to keep discussing. Thank you.
Everybody to their liking. - THIS and nothing else is btw, my personal position on other people's opinions and choices, here and in life in general, and I won't take any further attacks and misinterpretations of my person in this forum. Everyone who's ever followed my posts knows it perfectly well, and still I'm always accused of being whatever a blindfolded zero. I AM FED UP WITH THAT DELIBERATE BULLYING ON A PERSONAL LEVEL AND WON'T TAKE IT ANY LONGER !!!
AND,
dear Yggdrasil ... only two months ago you came up with The Sisters' Live Sound already ... obviously not to your satisfaction...
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