So damn cold (VERY IMPORTANT FIX NEEDED)

For you to give feedback to the Heartland moderators. Wish lists, fault reports, etc. You may get an answer, you may not. As in all things, it largely depends on how nicely you ask the people in charge... You're welcome.
User avatar
kafka
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 158
Joined: 21 Nov 2003, 21:18

I really like the random featured little lyric thingy on the homepage, but today I saw this and it made me a little itchy - the quote from 9w9 reads "It's so damn cold and it's just not true" ... and that's not the lyric.

Please address as a highest priority.

;)
[repeat x40]
User avatar
Quiff Boy
Herr Administrator
Posts: 16755
Joined: 25 Jan 2002, 00:00
Location: Lurking and fixing
Contact:

😂

I’ll look into it.
What’s the difference between a buffalo and a bison?
User avatar
alanm
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 240
Joined: 03 Mar 2020, 13:11
Location: this is not my map at all

Big fan of that feature too.

While you're in there, the diversity of the options seems... lacking? I swear I only ever see the same dozen or so. Not that TSOM have a massive back catalogue but it feels like there should be more. This may have changed at the upgrade but I'm not 100% sure?

Maybe the PRNG needs some lube?
Do you remember a time when angels... do you remember a time when fear?
In the days when I was stronger, in the days when you were here?
User avatar
Quiff Boy
Herr Administrator
Posts: 16755
Joined: 25 Jan 2002, 00:00
Location: Lurking and fixing
Contact:

:lol:

Fwiw, the quotes are pulled at random from this file:

random_quotes.txt

I've corrected the 9w9 lyrics btw
What’s the difference between a buffalo and a bison?
User avatar
alanm
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 240
Joined: 03 Mar 2020, 13:11
Location: this is not my map at all

I see, clearly it's me with the "just a dozen". I wasn't expecting many duplicates, but that source list is much reduced from the entire canon.
Do you remember a time when angels... do you remember a time when fear?
In the days when I was stronger, in the days when you were here?
User avatar
Quiff Boy
Herr Administrator
Posts: 16755
Joined: 25 Jan 2002, 00:00
Location: Lurking and fixing
Contact:

I tried to avoid more than one lyric from each song, and chose the ones which still sounded cool in isolation

Happy to add some more though :)
What’s the difference between a buffalo and a bison?
User avatar
Pista
Cureboi
Posts: 17440
Joined: 25 Jun 2006, 15:03
Location: Lost In A Forest
Contact:

The list was a lot longer than I thought TBH
Cheers.
Steve
Just like the old days

TheCureCommunity
User avatar
Quiff Boy
Herr Administrator
Posts: 16755
Joined: 25 Jan 2002, 00:00
Location: Lurking and fixing
Contact:

the way it's supposed to work is:

- it looks how many lines are in the file
- it picks a random number between 1 and that number
- it displays the lyric from that line number in the file

however, if folks aren't seeing a wide range of quotes there's a chance the RNG might not be as R as i hoped

i've shuffled the order of them around in text file so hopefully folks will see some different ones...?

in the meantime i'll do a bit of digging to see if something isn't working quite right
What’s the difference between a buffalo and a bison?
User avatar
Swinnow
Overbomber
Posts: 3548
Joined: 15 Mar 2005, 08:51
Location: In the Gazebo Of Badness, just outside BD3

Ferk maths, let's dance
....if I have to explain, then you'll never understand....
User avatar
DJElectricDaddy
Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 302
Joined: 29 Aug 2020, 19:56
Location: Where the sun shines bright. Where the rain don’t fall
Contact:

Quiff Boy wrote: 05 Jan 2021, 23:48 the way it's supposed to work is:

- it looks how many lines are in the file
- it picks a random number between 1 and that number
- it displays the lyric from that line number in the file

however, if folks aren't seeing a wide range of quotes there's a chance the RNG might not be as R as i hoped
I remember trying to code Math.random functions in Flash (don’t hate me) back when and it would ‘favour’ certain positions. Like if I wanted the payhead to go to a random frame out of 20 it would favour the middle bunch, landing on 1,2,3,18,19,20 less frequently. So I had to weight the frames with duplicates on the edges to rebalance. Fuqing math. Fuqing computers. Just do your job you’re a giant calculator.
Somewhere on a tiny planet
crawl some ants called the human race
Lost in time
Lost in space
And meaning
User avatar
alanm
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 240
Joined: 03 Mar 2020, 13:11
Location: this is not my map at all

Quiff Boy wrote: 05 Jan 2021, 23:48 in the meantime i'll do a bit of digging to see if something isn't working quite right
Look, I'm sure it was my cognitive bias at fault here, not the PRNG. Don't waste too much time on it.

Am in favour of any effort at expanding the list though. I prefer my PRNG in Dwarf Fortress size rather than backgammon size :)
Do you remember a time when angels... do you remember a time when fear?
In the days when I was stronger, in the days when you were here?
paint it black
Black, black, black & even blacker
Posts: 4944
Joined: 11 Jul 2002, 01:00

ITS SO DAMN COLD AND ITS JUST..... 😱

We now have a full blown emergency, code black...

Look after the bigger things and the smaller things will follow
Goths have feelings too
User avatar
Quiff Boy
Herr Administrator
Posts: 16755
Joined: 25 Jan 2002, 00:00
Location: Lurking and fixing
Contact:

whoops, cut and paste error. fixed now.
So damn cold it's just not true
What’s the difference between a buffalo and a bison?
paint it black
Black, black, black & even blacker
Posts: 4944
Joined: 11 Jul 2002, 01:00

Phew! World order is restored. Thanks QB 😎
Goths have feelings too
User avatar
kafka
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 158
Joined: 21 Nov 2003, 21:18

I just noticed... "See a face and a dream of the dead days". Nope...
[repeat x40]
paint it black
Black, black, black & even blacker
Posts: 4944
Joined: 11 Jul 2002, 01:00

Can we have some of the new lyrics too please. However no mention of Liverpool either please.
Goths have feelings too
User avatar
iesus
Overbomber
Posts: 4429
Joined: 15 Mar 2006, 11:15
Location: x-EU

paint it black wrote: 27 Apr 2022, 07:44 Can we have some of the new lyrics too please. However no mention of Liverpool either please.
Agree with mr.pib :bat: :bat:
There are some cool new lyrics in the new songs, like

- there is no us; there's only them
- we had wool and we had steel we had liverpool
- a thousand thousand souls have never seen the sea
- we threw a line, we did not deep it
- I made you cry, I made you mine
- We have love like love We have it simulated
- Show me your pop music Barbie rock and roll
etc
:bat: :bat:
'Are we the Baddies?'...
"Someday! Someday, everything you need, is just gonna fall out of the sky..." -A.E. Reading 1991
"Don't forget that most of the judges in witches trials had harvard degrees."
User avatar
LyanvisAberrant
Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 727
Joined: 18 Mar 2013, 21:58
Location: Where the wild roses grow.
Contact:

A neon faust to you? Be a better reptile? We are here? There is no god but where I am? Some cracking ones these past few tours, if we're making suggestions! Haha
A man with a fictitious grin pondered the terrain in which he flooded with anguish, for this is England. The lion cannot be tamed, this is the game.
User avatar
Pista
Cureboi
Posts: 17440
Joined: 25 Jun 2006, 15:03
Location: Lost In A Forest
Contact:

This is very much in @markfiend's &/or @Quiff Boy's hands.
I don't have access to the generator I'm afraid
Cheers.
Steve
Just like the old days

TheCureCommunity
User avatar
markfiend
goriller of form 3b
Posts: 21181
Joined: 11 Nov 2003, 10:55
Location: st custards
Contact:

I don't think I can access it any more either sorry. I seem to have lost the login details. (The credentials have probably changed since I was last in there anyway; I've not logged in since well before the site was upgraded to the new phpBB.)
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
User avatar
Planet Dave
Underneath the Rock
Posts: 6569
Joined: 22 Apr 2003, 23:51
Location: Where the streets fold round

Sounds like access to the lyric sheet would be as welcome as access to the generator :innocent: ;D
There is increasing evidence to suggest that Chris may have been being sarcastic.
User avatar
kafka
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 158
Joined: 21 Nov 2003, 21:18

In case it's any help, I took the liberty of adding a few new lyrics and fixing a couple of things... copy/paste into the file when somebody gets access?

Creatures of tinsel and gauze
That's not waving; that is drowning
You have the freedom to be living in a car
Heave away, heave away boys
In a home where we're not real
And when I stand and raise my hand
This can go two ways
With the hammer drawn
Anything but paranoid
If it makes you happy
Slide on the chrome and plastic
Throw away the underclasses
With a third degree in jealousy
Blues and twos because it's Monday
Romance and assassination
Lay me down the long white line
There is no us; there's only them
They were many, we are few
But Genevieve, it's time
Show me stupid on tv
Watched the wonder wander past
Going round and around and around and around
It's just a kiss away
I guess this must be the home of the hitmen
Ich bin hier allein
So still, so dark all over Europe
Another motherfucker in a motorcade
Love for the death and for the defecation
Everything is lost and your trust lies broken
Pink noise, white noise
Take a walk downtown to where the victims go
One more night spent on your mirror
Nine while nine and I'm waiting
So damn cold it's just not true
Make a mess of your conviction
And yes, I believe in what we had
Everybody got a destination
Rationale, rhyme and reason
You reap what you sow
See the wreckage and the damage done
Gimme something fast
For a million empty faces
For a million hollow smiles
Cut a hole between the ground and sky
f**k me and marry me young
It don't help to be one of the chosen
Tunnel vision and the scars to prove it
Into that good night kiss away
I got wrecked out here
Run around in the radiation
Another shade of empty
Lost for stupid again
Set the controls for the heart or the knees
Take a one way ticket to the main attraction
When the water come rushing, rushing in
England fades away in your eyes
Counting the days in the haze around you
I hear the roar of a big machine
This is Babel, sensurround
See a body and a dream of the dead days
Seconds to the drop but it feels like hours
It's just a heartbeat, loud
Forget the many steps to heaven
Here come the marching men
Guns and cars and accidents
Living in films for the sake of Russia
Shake me down again
[repeat x40]
User avatar
Being645
Above the Chemist
Posts: 14909
Joined: 09 Apr 2009, 12:54
Location: reconstruction status: 62.45%

Another suggestion:

It's all about the jack knife
User avatar
eastmidswhizzkid
Faster Than The Light Of Speed
Posts: 9689
Joined: 24 Mar 2005, 00:01
Location: WhizzWorld
Contact:

kafka wrote: 27 Apr 2022, 00:54 I just noticed... "See a face and a dream of the dead days". Nope...
what don't you like about this? it is the correct first line of the last verse; and is even stated as such in the lyrics section of the official site. :?:
Well I was handsome and I was strong
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"

:bat:
User avatar
kafka
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 158
Joined: 21 Nov 2003, 21:18

You’re right, and I’d been meaning to come back here to correct myself. I always think of the first “see a body”, and various non-official sources have that repeated, but listening to FALAA the other day I was reminded that it does indeed switch to “see a face”; so, my bad.
[repeat x40]
Post Reply