1984 Peel Session on Spotify

THE place for your Sisters-related comments, questions and snippets of Sisters information. For those who do not know, The Sisters of Mercy are a rock'n'roll band. And a pop band. And an industrial groove machine. Or so they say. They make records. Lots of records, apparently. But not in your galaxy. They play concerts. Lots of concerts, actually. But you still cannot see them. So what's it all about, Alfie? This is one of the few tightly-moderated forums on Heartland, so please keep on-topic. All off-topic posts will either be moved or deleted. Chairman Bux is the editor and the editor's decision is final. Danke.
Post Reply
User avatar
Pista
Cureboi
Posts: 17626
Joined: 25 Jun 2006, 15:03
Location: Lost In A Forest
Contact:
Contact Pista

Is it just my copy or is there little to no top end on the 84 session?
The 82 & 83 are lovely and crisp, but the 84 one seems to be quite dull in comparison
Cheers.
Steve
Just like the old days
TheCureCommunity
Top
User avatar
alanm
Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 266
Joined: 03 Mar 2020, 13:11
Location: this is not my map at all

alanm wrote: ↑15 Jan 2021, 15:21 '83 has got Burn labelled as Heartland, Heartland labelled as Valentine, and Valentine labelled as Burn. Jolene they got right.
I got this from Spotify support:
We’ve checked it out and see what you mean, so we’ve passed it on to the Content team for review. Hopefully they’ll have this sorted for you soon. Please be aware this could take several weeks to be reflected in the app.
Thanks Mark.
Do you remember a time when angels... do you remember a time when fear?
In the days when I was stronger, in the days when you were here?
Top
User avatar
mh
Above the Chemist
Posts: 8123
Joined: 23 Jun 2003, 14:41
Location: A city built on rock 'n' roll

Pista wrote: ↑16 Jan 2021, 11:08 Is it just my copy or is there little to no top end on the 84 session?
The 82 & 83 are lovely and crisp, but the 84 one seems to be quite dull in comparison
It's not just you, and I've noticed this on '84 from other sources too. The top end is actually there, it's just seriously muted by comparison and the whole thing needs some serious EQ to make it consistent with the others. Which is seriously weird if intentional.
If I told them once, I told them a hundred times to put 'Spinal Tap' first and 'Puppet Show' last.
Top
User avatar
Pista
Cureboi
Posts: 17626
Joined: 25 Jun 2006, 15:03
Location: Lost In A Forest
Contact:
Contact Pista

mh wrote: ↑20 Jan 2021, 15:18
Pista wrote: ↑16 Jan 2021, 11:08 Is it just my copy or is there little to no top end on the 84 session?
The 82 & 83 are lovely and crisp, but the 84 one seems to be quite dull in comparison
It's not just you, and I've noticed this on '84 from other sources too. The top end is actually there, it's just seriously muted by comparison and the whole thing needs some serious EQ to make it consistent with the others. Which is seriously weird if intentional.
Glad it's not just me then. Thanks for that.
& you're right. It's way down in the mix. Maybe it was just a case of them getting used to the new Doktor.
Cheers.
Steve
Just like the old days
TheCureCommunity
Top
User avatar
Todashi
Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 352
Joined: 21 Jun 2019, 09:53

In other news, these releases are now accessible in Ireland on Spotify and Apple Music. Dunno why they weren't before but now you know.
Top
User avatar
doctor_jeep
Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 115
Joined: 24 Jan 2004, 20:27
Location: Saarbruecken, Germany

Todashi wrote: ↑21 Jan 2021, 13:22 In other news, these releases are now accessible in Ireland on Spotify and Apple Music. Dunno why they weren't before but now you know.
Germany too. Maybe it was some licensing/rights issue?
Clearly now the past mistakes
The giant steps we had to take
The path that ever promise made to
Die in dream dissolve and fade
Top
User avatar
JansenClone
Utterly Bastard Groovy Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 680
Joined: 14 Mar 2003, 21:51
Location: Pudsey, Leeds

Still has the start of 'No Time To Cry' missing and a tape slipping noise in 'Floorshow.' Managed to fix those but surely the original masters haven't been damaged in this way?

Edit - Thinking about this. When 6 Music were rebroadcasting the sessions, they probably wouldn't have moved the original tapes. I suspect someone was sent to make recordings of them, and didn't make a particularly good job of it, which is where the missing parts and badly loaded tape noise could have come from. I also suspect that nobody went back to the master tapes for Spotify, Amazon, etc. which is why the errors are still there. The missing top end could be down to the abilities of whoever made the recording of the 84 session. They didn't even manage to label the tracks correctly either. Reminds me of the ‘Visioin Thing’ spine. The Sisters back catalogue. Not especially well served is it?
I am a Leeds United fan because I was very naughty in a previous life.
Top
User avatar
Wilkstein
Road Kill
Posts: 82
Joined: 09 May 2006, 00:22
Location: 30 Seconds Over Reeperbahn

Speaking of Spotify:

https://www.royalties-calculator.com/ar ... CSsJWxwWR/
Top
User avatar
DJElectricDaddy
Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 307
Joined: 29 Aug 2020, 19:56
Location: Where the sun shines bright. Where the rain don’t fall
Contact:
Contact DJElectricDaddy

Wilkstein wrote: ↑22 Apr 2021, 03:47 Speaking of Spotify:

https://www.royalties-calculator.com/ar ... CSsJWxwWR/
Excellent resource. Cheers.
Somewhere on a tiny planet
crawl some ants called the human race
Lost in time
Lost in space
And meaning
Top
User avatar
alanm
Gonzoid Amphetamine Filth
Posts: 266
Joined: 03 Mar 2020, 13:11
Location: this is not my map at all

alanm wrote: ↑23 Jun 2020, 14:09 Spotify stats pulled for the curious

Code: Select all

          monthly listeners| followers
TSOM            453460     | 204686 
Joy Division    3544432    | 1342596 
New Order       4924914    | 1198658 
The Cure        9878046    | 2589412 
The Cult        1606508    | 353398 
Motorhead       3683053    | 2233188 
Leonard Cohen   3162687    | 1904876 
Suicide         362700     | 95577 
The M******     171717     | 84508 
Ghost Dance     535        | 571
I noticed that TSOM hit 1M monthly listeners on Spotify, so I pulled this data again out of interest.
Changes are since the OP in 2020.

Code: Select all

               monthly active 
             |    listeners   | followers |  ML inc   | followers inc
TSOM         | 1010352        | 489444    | 123%      | 139%
Joy Division | 4281909        | 2343271   | 21%       | 75%
New Order    | 6290893        | 2106369   | 28%       | 76%
The Cure     | 18023187       | 5183994   | 82%       | 100%
The Cult     | 2131829        | 695557    | 33%       | 97%
Motorhead    | 4571800        | 3884849   | 24%       | 74%
Leonard Cohen| 3492171        | 3280479   | 10%       | 72%
Suicide      | 225657         | 165219    | -38%      | 73%
The M******  | 171354         | 162615    | 0%        | 92%
Ghost Dance  | 4754           | 4318      | 789%      | 656%
Couple stories suggest themselves:
  • These are mostly higher than Spotify's growth (MAU up 54% since 2020)
  • Still lots of interest in the Sisters back catalog
  • The streaming market means that big bands keep getting bigger?
  • At the same time niche artists like GD are reaching a fanbase?
  • Suicide hasn't aged well.
Do you remember a time when angels... do you remember a time when fear?
In the days when I was stronger, in the days when you were here?
Top
User avatar
MrChris
Slight Overbomber
Posts: 1413
Joined: 21 May 2003, 11:34
Location: A Forest

So TSOM's monthly listeners have more than doubled, whereas The m*****n's have actually gone DOWN? Revenge is a dish...etc
Chris

---------------------------------------------
Again and again and again...
Top
User avatar
eastmidswhizzkid
Faster Than The Light Of Speed
Posts: 9876
Joined: 24 Mar 2005, 00:01
Location: WhizzWorld
Contact:
Contact eastmidswhizzkid

alanm wrote: ↑01 Mar 2024, 10:24
alanm wrote: ↑23 Jun 2020, 14:09 Spotify stats pulled for the curious

Code: Select all

          monthly listeners| followers
TSOM            453460     | 204686 
Joy Division    3544432    | 1342596 
New Order       4924914    | 1198658 
The Cure        9878046    | 2589412 
The Cult        1606508    | 353398 
Motorhead       3683053    | 2233188 
Leonard Cohen   3162687    | 1904876 
Suicide         362700     | 95577 
The M******     171717     | 84508 
Ghost Dance     535        | 571
I noticed that TSOM hit 1M monthly listeners on Spotify, so I pulled this data again out of interest.
Changes are since the OP in 2020.

Code: Select all

               monthly active 
             |    listeners   | followers |  ML inc   | followers inc
TSOM         | 1010352        | 489444    | 123%      | 139%
Joy Division | 4281909        | 2343271   | 21%       | 75%
New Order    | 6290893        | 2106369   | 28%       | 76%
The Cure     | 18023187       | 5183994   | 82%       | 100%
The Cult     | 2131829        | 695557    | 33%       | 97%
Motorhead    | 4571800        | 3884849   | 24%       | 74%
Leonard Cohen| 3492171        | 3280479   | 10%       | 72%
Suicide      | 225657         | 165219    | -38%      | 73%
The M******  | 171354         | 162615    | 0%        | 92%
Ghost Dance  | 4754           | 4318      | 789%      | 656%
Couple stories suggest themselves:
  • These are mostly higher than Spotify's growth (MAU up 54% since 2020)
  • Still lots of interest in the Sisters back catalog
  • The streaming market means that big bands keep getting bigger?
  • At the same time niche artists like GD are reaching a fanbase?
  • Suicide hasn't aged well.
a shame that the Sisters wont see a penny from it. Hopefully a knock on effect through merch sales & love tickets. as for Ghost Dance they are an active gigging recording product releleasing entity. so not surprised if they have a growing fanbase.
Well I was handsome and I was strong
And I knew the words to every song.
"Did my singing please you?"
"No! The words you sang were wrong!"
:bat:
Top
Post Reply

Return to “Sisters Chat”