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A first attempt from me

Creatures of tinsel and gauze
Lametta to the max
?
We beat your body to the ?
But we reach for our unravel?
We get to teach you what you know
We are here
Lametta and vendetta
?
Tinsel and vein?
We are here
Lametta and vendetta
Lametta to the max
And just because
We beat your body to the ?
We are here
we will steal what we cannot buy when all is stole from us
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Herr E actually

Let's drop the whole Von thing. Mister will do.
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imagine being in your 60's and being able to put on a loud shirt, jump up on stage and yell some inane doggerel like lametta and vendetta! lametta to the MAX!... and earn a sweet chunk of pocket money from it (and selling related t-shirts). Imagine your drunken uncle tries that at a family wedding.
What a life. No wonder he doesn't give a s**t about getting in the studio.
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I keep hearing that one line as

we feed your body to the rat


Maybe it's due to The Waste Land.

I think we are in rats’ alley
Where the dead men lost their bones.
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We beat your body to the rack
We beat your body to the lash

He's managed to screw it up and already sang "to the rash', so as usual it's anybody's guess.
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‘HERE’


creatures of tinsel and gauze

lametta to the max

a neon Faust to you, and just because

we beat your body to the rack


so observe

while we reach for our unravel

we get to teach you what you know

you need reminding though

we will let a little show

do we hit a nerve or do we hit a vein?


tinsel and vain

we are here


lametta and vendetta

we are here
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Those are definitely the lyrics.
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Some advanced de-mumblification there. Nice work. Takes a few listens anyway.
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alanm wrote: 07 Apr 2022, 09:08 imagine being in your 60's and being able to put on a loud shirt, jump up on stage and yell some inane doggerel like lametta and vendetta! lametta to the MAX!... and earn a sweet chunk of pocket money from it (and selling related t-shirts). Imagine your drunken uncle tries that at a family wedding.
What a life. No wonder he doesn't give a s**t about getting in the studio.
This made me laugh audibly for quite some time. Well put. But, funny thing is, that's easily what makes the song for me. Only our Andy could write such doggerel and make it mean (arguably, your milage will vary) and feel like a shot to the chest. He has a way with words, and a way with delivery, that never fails to make me swoon. Honest, I love that line.
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https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vendetta_Lametta

Google Translate:
Vendetta Lametta. Reden ist Silber, Rache ist Gold is a six-part television series that was broadcast approximately weekly on the German television channel Tele 5 from August 2017 . The main actresses were Ines Anioli and Leila Lowfire , who became known through their podcast Sexpleasure .

In the series, the two women traveled through Europe and faced various, deliberately provocative challenges in the cities they visited. Among other things, they walked through Amsterdam on a leash in latex dog costumes or reenacted the orgasm scene from the feature film Harry and Sally in a restaurant in Naples.
Very interesting, because that's sounds like the kind of utterly stupid show that Eldritch himself used to get pestered to be on?

("Lametta" seems to be Deutsch for tinsel, so there's that)
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Doesn't sound so wrong ... at least one time I thought I heard Von sing in Six Ways To Sunday :

I have the right to be obscene ... :) ...
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Regardless of the detail of the words, I just love the assertion on behalf of The Sisters of Mercy...

We. Are. Here.
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Adsumus (Latin: "We Are Here") means, after its opening word, the prayer with which the assistance of the Holy Spirit is invoked at the beginning of councils and synods of the Roman Catholic Church.

I had to google this as I ran across the phrase in The Tower of Fools by Andrzej Sapkowski. And I couldn't believe this to be a coincidence.
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According to a Roman Catholic site about synods the prayer is called "Adsumus Sancte Spiritus", and Adsumus for simplification. But they translate it as "We stand before You, Holy Spirit", which is a little far from "We are here".
From an Orthodox point of view, i can assure you that in the church etiquette, there is a lot of standing when during liturgy is mentioned the Holy Trinity or the Lord (Father) or if you feel the presence of Holy Spirit. My feeling is that this is not the case for "Here" and the "We Are Here". No matter how attractive that would be for some people. i believe there is no connection to "Adsumus". A honest humble opinion but perhaps it is otherwise :notworthy: :bat: :bat:
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I had Latin in school (6 years), and I know that Adsumus literally translates to "We Are Here". Whatever Roman Catholic sites tell you.
sumus = we are; ad = at/to (something) - if (something) is not specified: here

That doesn't mean that Eldritch references it in any way, though.
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As nigel molesworth wil tel you: All latin masters hav one joke:

Caesar adsum jam forte. Brutus aderat. Caesar sic in omnibus. Brutus sic enat.

Adsum in that means "I am here". As any fule kno.

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Latin sounds interesting lesson to have whatever the case. So if you say "Ad+Pub's Door" for example and "Sum" or "Sumus", you say "I am" or "We are" + "at Pub's Door" , right? if you don't specify something, it means "here".
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Well, if you are "ad tabernam", you are next to, but still outside the pub. If you want to order a beer, you'll probably want to be "in tabernam" ;-)
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I think it's
"just because we FEED your body to the rack'

(based off the Nijmegen recording)
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Rantz Hoseley wrote: 19 Jun 2023, 21:23 I think it's
"just because we FEED your body to the rack'

(based off the Nijmegen recording)
Von sometimes changes the words. You might be right therefore. But I think Mark Andrews probably got it from the horse‘s mouth. :)
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He changes the words around at different shows, which probably keeps things from getting too repetitive. I also think he studied Latin, among all those 15 other languages!
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Rantz Hoseley wrote: 19 Jun 2023, 21:23 I think it's
"just because we FEED your body to the rack'

(based off the Nijmegen recording)
That's what I hear.

Whatever the words it's a brilliant song and I hear it as a statement of intent...

"We are here"

So deal with it, maggot farmers

That kind of vibe....
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It will suck dead puppies through a straw if we never get to hear this one again. My equal fave of the new numbers alongside DDOI
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H. Blackrose wrote: 18 Oct 2023, 22:37 It will suck dead puppies through a straw if we never get to hear this one again. My equal fave of the new numbers alongside DDOI
Then this is a good time to tell you that they played it in Paris last night.
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