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Gary Numan is releasing a limited edition bobblehead to celebrate the anniversary of the release of Telekon.
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A re-release of F & L & A on Vinyl, with Long Train added to the end of the track list, and various spelling mistakes
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Ocean Moves wrote: 08 Mar 2025, 21:14 A re-release of F & L & A on Vinyl, with Long Train added to the end of the track list, and various spelling mistakes
I've never liked Long Train.
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ribbons69 wrote: 09 Mar 2025, 00:10
Ocean Moves wrote: 08 Mar 2025, 21:14 A re-release of F & L & A on Vinyl, with Long Train added to the end of the track list, and various spelling mistakes
I've never liked Long Train.
Its not my favourite either - just sounds like somethng random a record company would do
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ribbons69 wrote: 09 Mar 2025, 00:10
Ocean Moves wrote: 08 Mar 2025, 21:14 A re-release of F & L & A on Vinyl, with Long Train added to the end of the track list, and various spelling mistakes
I've never liked Long Train.
Me neither, you can clearly hear where the tapes were cut and pasted together, I'm not against the idea of making a long train per se, but the final result they delivered is just...terrible.
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ribbons69 wrote: 09 Mar 2025, 00:10
Ocean Moves wrote: 08 Mar 2025, 21:14 A re-release of F & L & A on Vinyl, with Long Train added to the end of the track list, and various spelling mistakes
I've never liked Long Train.
With you there.
It really lacks the immediacy & punch that Train has.
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Husek wrote: 10 Mar 2025, 14:42
ribbons69 wrote: 09 Mar 2025, 00:10
Ocean Moves wrote: 08 Mar 2025, 21:14 A re-release of F & L & A on Vinyl, with Long Train added to the end of the track list, and various spelling mistakes
I've never liked Long Train.
Me neither, you can clearly hear where the tapes were cut and pasted together, I'm not against the idea of making a long train per se, but the final result they delivered is just...terrible.
I always thought that the original post was tongue in cheek. Nobody seems to like Long Train and a recurring Visioin Thing misprint. (First and Last and Awlays?)
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GC wrote: 10 Mar 2025, 21:30
Husek wrote: 10 Mar 2025, 14:42
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I've never liked Long Train.
Me neither, you can clearly hear where the tapes were cut and pasted together, I'm not against the idea of making a long train per se, but the final result they delivered is just...terrible.
I always thought that the original post was tongue in cheek. Nobody seems to like Long Train and a recurring Visioin Thing misprint. (First and Last and Awlays?)
I mean, it was a joke, but we are very vocal about two things and we won't miss the opportunity to drop daily reminders about them:

-- How much Long Train Suck
-- How much You could be The One is an underrated gem.
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Husek wrote: 10 Mar 2025, 14:42
ribbons69 wrote: 09 Mar 2025, 00:10
Ocean Moves wrote: 08 Mar 2025, 21:14 A re-release of F & L & A on Vinyl, with Long Train added to the end of the track list, and various spelling mistakes
I've never liked Long Train.
Me neither, you can clearly hear where the tapes were cut and pasted together, I'm not against the idea of making a long train per se, but the final result they delivered is just...terrible.
I've never noticed the tape cut and paste in Long Train! When is it?
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I like Long Train. 8)
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mh wrote: Yesterday, 11:42 I like Long Train. 8)
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MoBetaBlues wrote: Yesterday, 08:47
Husek wrote: 10 Mar 2025, 14:42
ribbons69 wrote: 09 Mar 2025, 00:10

I've never liked Long Train.
Me neither, you can clearly hear where the tapes were cut and pasted together, I'm not against the idea of making a long train per se, but the final result they delivered is just...terrible.
I've never noticed the tape cut and paste in Long Train! When is it?
You could argue that the first 'cut' is around 0:48, but it's smoothed out by the vocals on top, which can honestly be seen as an aesthetic choice.

2:17 -> 2:19 is the real copy-cut, where there's a slight BPM change, the drum voicing is different, and you can clearly hear that the intro part belongs to a different studio session, maybe a different era altogether. At 2:19, the "normal-sized" train kicks in.

I think there's another cut later but I really don't feel like listening to the next 5 minutes of this version of Train.

For the record, I absolutely love Train, one of my favourite songs, especially the "modern" live version, I specifically dislike Long Train lol.
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ribbons69 wrote: 09 Mar 2025, 00:10
Ocean Moves wrote: 08 Mar 2025, 21:14 A re-release of F & L & A on Vinyl, with Long Train added to the end of the track list, and various spelling mistakes
I've never liked Long Train.
I love Long Train, honestly. It's long, repetitive, got a groove. Right up my very specific alley.
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Husek wrote: Yesterday, 14:36
MoBetaBlues wrote: Yesterday, 08:47
Husek wrote: 10 Mar 2025, 14:42

Me neither, you can clearly hear where the tapes were cut and pasted together, I'm not against the idea of making a long train per se, but the final result they delivered is just...terrible.
I've never noticed the tape cut and paste in Long Train! When is it?
You could argue that the first 'cut' is around 0:48, but it's smoothed out by the vocals on top, which can honestly be seen as an aesthetic choice.

2:17 -> 2:19 is the real copy-cut, where there's a slight BPM change, the drum voicing is different, and you can clearly hear that the intro part belongs to a different studio session, maybe a different era altogether. At 2:19, the "normal-sized" train kicks in.

I think there's another cut later but I really don't feel like listening to the next 5 minutes of this version of Train.

For the record, I absolutely love Train, one of my favourite songs, especially the "modern" live version, I specifically dislike Long Train lol.
Thanks, i shall have to sit and listen to it properly!
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