Heartland

Posted: **02 Jan 2007, 20:53**

EvilBastard wrote: 1. Freedom of speech (no matter how hateful we believe it to be) is paramount

But it's not without limits :

The Universal Declaration of Human Rights wrote:Article 19.

Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

But it also wrote:Article 30.

Nothing in this Declaration may be interpreted as implying for any State, group or person any right to engage in any activity or to perform any act aimed at the destruction of any of the rights and freedoms set forth herein.

This of course applies to freedom of speech, and that's why revisionism cannot be tolerated.

The European Convention of Human Rights is even clearer on the subject (especially in pt. 2) :

Article 10 â€“ Freedom of expression

1. Everyone has the right to freedom of expression. This right shall include freedom to hold opinions and to receive and impart information and ideas without interference by public authority and regardless of frontiers. This article shall not prevent States from requiring the licensing of broadcasting, television or cinema enterprises.
2. The exercise of these freedoms, since it carries with it duties and responsibilities, may be subject to such formalities, conditions, restrictions or penalties as are prescribed by law and are necessary in a democratic society, in the interests of national security, territorial integrity or public safety, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the protection of health or morals, for the protection of the reputation or rights of others, for preventing the disclosure of information received in confidence, or for maintaining the authority and impartiality of the judiciary.

Posted: **02 Jan 2007, 20:56**

CLT: Elton John's tribute song to the man himself, "Dangle in the Wind".

Posted: **02 Jan 2007, 21:35**

itnAklipse wrote:Yes, **** purpose is to document the real history of jews, not as they document it through their PR but as it is really.

Or perhaps as they would like to believe it is, presented as it is in a subjective format. History is written by the winners, or people who would like to think they were.

itnAklipse wrote:And if you read more about it, i think anyone with an open mind would have to agree that it was not as innocent as Evilbastard, who obviously has no qualms about having extreme prejudice against anyone who might think badly of the Golden People, would like to suggest it was.

I have problems with extreme prejudice, whether it comes from ****, the Project for the New American Century, Landover Baptists, or the JTF. I'd just rather know what the prejudices are so I can come up with ideas to fight them.

itnAklipse wrote:I would've never, for example, known that bolsheviks were jews and the french revolution was a jewish revolution and the values promoted in it were jewish values etc. had i not stumbled upon that site.

Liberty, Equality, and Fraternity are "jewish" values? Someone cut 2" off the end of them (that's a So Haunt Me joke, if anyone remembers that show)? Someone really ought to tell the Americans...

itnAklipse wrote:Or that rabbis flock the white house and Bush lights up menorahs for them, when religion and state are supposed to be separate, and he's certainly not having anything Christian in the white house because that would be politically incorrect.

Attorney General John "Asscrack" Ashcroft held morning christian prayer meetings in the Dept. of Justice; Bush holds prayer breakfasts and invites ministers of various faiths (muslim, jewish, every shade of christianity, the Daily Llama) to attend; there is a Christmas tree in the White House, ostensibly Christian but harking back to much older pagan beliefs.

****'s view of the world is enormously limited - it makes capital from showing you a tiny piece of the whole, and telling you that everything else is like that. If you take a narrow enough view, you could believe that the Mona Lisa is actually a painting of a bridge.
Pick up a newspaper sometime, listen to some alternative points of view, make up your own mind.

Posted: **02 Jan 2007, 21:56**

EvilBastard wrote: I have problems with extreme prejudice, whether it comes from ****, the Project for the New American Century, Landover Baptists, or the JTF. I'd just rather know what the prejudices are so I can come up with ideas to fight them.

Uhmm....you do know that Landover Baptist is a parody, right? It's a joke. I don't think real baptists would sell a "What Would Jesus Do?" thong. Cf. http://www.landoverbaptist.org

Maybe you're thinking of subhuman troglodyte Fred "God Hates Fags" Phelps of Westboro, Kansas?

Posted: **02 Jan 2007, 22:00**

itnAklipse wrote:Badlander: Yes, **** purpose is to document the real history of jews, not as they document it through their PR but as it is really. i don't think Weltner would deny that. That is the context of the site. Anything wrong with that?

And if you look around the site for a bit, you will easily find the evidence for jews financing nazis and supporting Hitler, if i remember correctly Walburg-family was one of those. And if you read more about it, i think anyone with an open mind would have to agree that it was not as innocent as Evilbastard, who obviously has no qualms about having extreme prejudice against anyone who might think badly of the Golden People, would like to suggest it was.

If i believed in fairness of the public opinion here, i would search for the links myself, but since i believe that would be useless because no one would dare to read them, i'd be just wasting my time.

Some people always think any evidence related to the crimes of the jews are innocent...oh they were just an integral part of germany haha. That's right, they were, but you can't hide the truth behind their intentions behind that claptrap. They rose Hitler to power, promoted anti-semitism etc.

i could recommend books on the subject but of course you wouldn't want to touch such books with a stick. So much for the proverbial "other side".

Disturbing? My opinion is that **** is a Godsend. i would've never, for example, known that bolsheviks were jews and the french revolution was a jewish revolution and the values promoted in it were jewish values etc. had i not stumbled upon that site.

PS: i suppose i must mention, otherwise i'll be labelled as an evil "anti-semite", that i have no problem with jewish people as a race or religion, i have a problem with jewish people who do certain things, starting from the Rothschilds...and it is very true that people of every race and creed are in bed with them.

Do you know that George Bush is quoted as saying (i hope the quote is ad verbatim): "i'm just one man in the middle of the jewish lobbyists"? Think about that.

Or did you know that when Giuliani was elected mayor, the first group he went to talk to was the jews of NY?

Or that rabbis flock the white house and Bush lights up menorahs for them, when religion and state are supposed to be separate, and he's certainly not having anything Christian in the white house because that would be politically incorrect.

You know, I was going to reply to this, but I don't think it needs a rebuttal. It's Grade-A High-Octane Crazy, and I think anyone and everyone can see that. It refutes itself in virtue of what it is. It is not worthy of being taken seriously.

Posted: **02 Jan 2007, 22:06**

sultan2075 wrote:Maybe you're thinking of subhuman troglodyte Fred "God Hates Fags" Phelps of Westboro, Kansas?

That would be the one - I think (back in the day) Mr. Phelps' church was known as Landover Baptists, hence the parody site name. But that's who I meant. Sorry for the confusion.

Posted: **02 Jan 2007, 22:09**

Aklipse, search Wikipedia for the definitions of the terms
-race
-people
-religion

Then read your post again..

When you read your favourite homepage, sit back and think about whoose purposes it serves.
YouÂ´ll find some bastards with a stiff right arm, IÂ´d say.

Posted: **02 Jan 2007, 22:59**

Stuff Saddam. That Guitarist is spamming on are "where are they now "thread.

Posted: **02 Jan 2007, 23:38**

Spigel wrote:Stuff Saddam. That Guitarist is spamming on are "where are they now "thread.

Sorry I got that wrong .It wasn't That Guitarist spamming .It was actually a swear word filter.Silly me I always get those mixed up.

Anyway Back to Saddam.

Posted: **02 Jan 2007, 23:44**

This thread inspires some modifications for the swearword filter if you ask me...

Posted: **02 Jan 2007, 23:52**

eotunun wrote:This thread inspires some modifications for the swearword filter if you ask me...

I bet your arm is feeling a little stiff right now

Posted: **02 Jan 2007, 23:56**

Spigel wrote:
eotunun wrote:This thread inspires some modifications for the swearword filter if you ask me...

I bet your arm is feeling a little stiff right now

A blessing in disguise?

Posted: **03 Jan 2007, 00:13**

eotunun wrote:
Spigel wrote:
eotunun wrote:This thread inspires some modifications for the swearword filter if you ask me...

I bet your arm is feeling a little stiff right now
A blessing in disguise?

Posted: **03 Jan 2007, 00:27**

WasnÂ´t it

Posted: **03 Jan 2007, 00:45**

certainly wasn't this

Posted: **03 Jan 2007, 00:48**

But even may be:

If it bores you..

Posted: **03 Jan 2007, 00:48**

Enjoying yourselves kiddies?

Posted: **03 Jan 2007, 00:51**

Sorry father, But it was time to follow the tradition of thread derailment..
This thing got all too disgusting.

Posted: **03 Jan 2007, 01:08**

I'm sorry too father.I didn't mean to but in there. Its just I got a little shock earlier with the That Guitarist thing .sorry.
Now,lets get back to Saddam.

Posted: **03 Jan 2007, 01:18**

God forgives all.

Posted: **03 Jan 2007, 01:25**

smiscandlon wrote:God forgives all.

Aye, but that Tom Bosley is a complete cnut

Posted: **03 Jan 2007, 08:51**

i'm in absolute agreement with eotunun that truth is extremely disgusting, and has nothing to do with the lies we have been told by the zionist-controlled media.

But i don't agree one should shrink back from it.

Posted: **03 Jan 2007, 09:45**

Posted: **03 Jan 2007, 09:57**

"an eye for an eye" ?
i am not sure anyone has the right to end someone else's life in agression/retribution (ignoring the whole euthenasia debate for a moment).
Woudn't he be better off in a cell in the Hague/European War Criminals Intitute than dead and on the news every fifteen minutes; slowly being margianalised as the rest of the world moves on?

p.s.
&Let's not forget who gave him the tools to do all the nastry-things...
"
In 1980, Saddam's longstanding unease with the Islamic state of Iran led him to launch a huge assault on it, backed by the West.
It resulted in one of the most destructive wars of attrition of the 20th century.

The US backed the Baathist leader in his war
against Iran [AFP]
More than 1.7 million died on both sides, including the poison gas attack on the northern village of Halabja to put down a Kurdish uprising against Saddam's regime.
"
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/ ... B76B21E%7d

"
Seeing himself as the new leader and champion of all Arabs, Saddam Hussein poured his army across the border into western Iran in September 1980, hoping to defuse a potential threat from the new Islamic revolution.
The disastrous war lasted eight years and claimed a million lives.
The president strengthened Iraq's military capability

The US quietly backed him, ignoring Iraq's human rights record and atrocities like the killing of 148 people in the mostly Shia town of Dujail after a failed assassination attempt against him in July 1982, and the gassing of 5,000 Kurdish villagers of Halabja in March 1988.
"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/1099005.stm

Posted: **03 Jan 2007, 10:02**

Here's a speech that might be of interest to especially all the good Germans in here, and most probably to others too:

http://anti-semitic-hate-site/DarylBradf ... edman.html

The site, anti-semitic-hate-site, is in general a pretty good site about the zionist-conspiracy and especially their 911-research is good.

As for me, don't worry, this thread ends here. Thanks for the interest and i hope at least one person would've thought about the things i said seriously, though it's very hard to come out of decades of mindwashing.

Heartland

RIP Saddam Hussein