Heartland

Sadly, Jum, I don't think anyone listens to that warning until it happens to them or someone they love

@ Juergen: if weed may be spinach...i have the Popeye muscles

boudicca wrote:Sadly, Jum, I don't think anyone listens to that warning until it happens to them or someone they love

So i guess 'The Better Crack Club' doesn't refer to crack-cocaine

moses wrote:

boudicca wrote:Sadly, Jum, I don't think anyone listens to that warning until it happens to them or someone they love

So i guess 'The Better Crack Club' doesn't refer to crack-cocaine

Rather to this better crack club

Obviousman wrote:

moses wrote:

boudicca wrote:Sadly, Jum, I don't think anyone listens to that warning until it happens to them or someone they love

So i guess 'The Better Crack Club' doesn't refer to crack-cocaine

Rather to this better crack club

as in 'craic'?

psichonaut wrote:@ Juergen: if weed may be spinach...i have the Popeye muscles

If that were the case I guess you could blow satelites into orbit..

boudicca wrote:Sadly, Jum, I don't think anyone listens to that warning until it happens to them or someone they love

Sadly.
What I felt there back then may just have been a "whitey", but as Sinnie said: I was affraid for my life in that situation. That feeling of my heart muscle cramping was not at all enjoyable. Not my idea of a worthwhile experience. I'd call that "whitey" a substantial panic attack.
Anyway, I rather stop doing something potentially riscy earlier than necessary than later than that if there are warning signs. That's what warning signs are for.

moses wrote:

Obviousman wrote:

moses wrote: So i guess 'The Better Crack Club' doesn't refer to crack-cocaine

Rather to this better crack club

as in 'craic'?

One would presume so. Poor sods just don't know how to spell in their own choice of dialect.

There is a world of difference between good crack and good craic !

I dunno, depends which pubs in Belfast you go to.
(says she, who happily left that city a few years back and doesn't intend to return)

Maisey wrote:The first time we ever tried speed we snorted it off a 12" copy of First and Last and Always

Funny, first time I did speed I snorted it off a Floodland tape.

Excellent!

It was actually inspired by a heartlander (I don't remember who) who said they used to have a special copy of Dark Side Of The Moon reserved for rolling joints.

For me, drugs need context, otherwise they are the wrong kind of depraved. Speed in goth clubs, Acid at outdoor Psytrance raves, Cannabis in a group situation, that kind of thing - everything in its place.

@MB...you put it very well!
Having used most of the old school drugs, I think that as long as one uses and doesn't abuse, all's good. For some that isn't an option because they have addictive personalities. Luckily, that was never an issue for me & my honey. Nowadays, we stay away from the illegals and stick to what the doctor prescribes. He gets pain pills for his medical conditions, as do I. We also get Adderal, me fo CFS and he for the fatigue that the MS causes. Basically, it's amphetemine salts in pill form. However, we've never had the inclination to crush & snort them! The one drug I'd never try and would urge others to stay away from is PCP. I've seen too many people freak out on that crap!

Last Tuesday I had some new pills.. thought it had come and gone, so I had another, then felt the first one start properly. So I worried, which just gave me the bad feelings. Mind, I knew what to do, sat with friends, kept calm, went on a half mile walk for chewing gum, and 30 minutes before the club closed, the second one started, and I felt great. Irony, huh?

And then on Friday I tried yet another sort.. designed to be the same as old-school E. I felt the same slightly-prickly heat on the top of my back that I remembered from Leeds, but weirdly, the thing that really got it pumping was sitting and cuddling one of my best friends for a bit. Strange, but fun.
Then I came down, drove home, slept 4 hours and did 9 hours at work the next day. Because I'm awesome like that.

I detest chemicals.

They kill people off.

Don't let it be one of you nice HLers...



IZ.

Dark wrote:Last Tuesday I had some new pills.. thought it had come and gone, so I had another, then felt the first one start properly. So I worried, which just gave me the bad feelings. Mind, I knew what to do, sat with friends, kept calm, went on a half mile walk for chewing gum, and 30 minutes before the club closed, the second one started, and I felt great. Irony, huh?

And then on Friday I tried yet another sort.. designed to be the same as old-school E. I felt the same slightly-prickly heat on the top of my back that I remembered from Leeds, but weirdly, the thing that really got it pumping was sitting and cuddling one of my best friends for a bit. Strange, but fun.
Then I came down, drove home, slept 4 hours and did 9 hours at work the next day. Because I'm awesome like that.

Nah, it's just cos you're young and can take it.

I don't mean to come over all preachy, but that's quite a bit of experimenting with chemicals, so I do hope you're being careful enough to make sure it doesn't end in tears.

the only thing i don't want to do anymore is smoke the"free base". i think the big part of you knows what it is, but for the record is cocaine washed in medical ammonia or sodium bicarbionate. i want to make the point that often i can find cocaine at 85% pure to sniff.
well, once, my first time i smoked it (1 gr in 4/ persons) and i stopped to talk for about 4 hours and i only stayed on the sofa just watching what the others did.....a nightmare when i turned into my skin

Dark wrote: And then on Friday I tried yet another sort.. designed to be the same as old-school E. I felt the same slightly-prickly heat on the top of my back that I remembered from Leeds, but weirdly, the thing that really got it pumping was sitting and cuddling one of my best friends for a bit. Strange, but fun.
Then I came down, drove home, slept 4 hours and did 9 hours at work the next day. Because I'm awesome like that.

That "cuddly" drug didn't happen to start with the letter M, did it?

mh wrote:

Dark wrote:Then I came down, drove home, slept 4 hours and did 9 hours at work the next day. Because I'm awesome like that.

Nah, it's just cos you're young and can take it.

Possibly, or else it's the drugs that are still talking. While individual tolerance seems to vary enormously, I think most people taking chemical cocktails end up showing the signs sooner or later.

mh wrote:I don't mean to come over all preachy, but that's quite a bit of experimenting with chemicals, so I do hope you're being careful enough to make sure it doesn't end in tears.

Quite. You might feel fine but maybe better to measure it by how other (sober) people find you.

Am I the only one who's a tiny bit concerned about the "drove home" part?

nowayjose wrote:Am I the only one who's a tiny bit concerned about the "drove home" part?

Somewhat earlier, Izzy wrote:
I detest chemicals.

They kill people off.

Don't let it be one of you nice HLers...



IZ.

Nope




IZ.

I don't think one counts as a "cocktail", nor are they "still talking" after a few days.

It's not like I suddenly stopped responding to real life, it just feels a little different.
Just forget it.

And hey, if it kills me, it's my own fault, right? Just one fewer person and one more "I told you so".
Don't assume that I have no idea whatsoever what I'm doing, please.

I have to say I am quite surprised at the anti-drug stance of most of you, I would have thought on a Sisters forum partaking in illegal drugs would have been de rigueur considering what the band and their cohorts were about. I guess nothing ventured nothing lost.

'Seven shades of shiva rising, I am come
wah-hoo
let's do the war on drugs
wah-hoo'

let's do the walk to work on drugs

Many of my drug-addled tales were from a time when I was of a similar age to how old Korin is now. And I'm sure the same is the case for a lot of the rest of you (at least the drug-takers among you).

Let him make his own mistakes -- if they are mistakes, of which I remain to be convinced.

You could get run over by a bus tomorrow...