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Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 09:47
by markfiend
MadameButterfly wrote:you all ken those words cause it's true, just like 1+1=2 and when the politics get in the way i can fuckingkill! WAKE UP PEOPLE!
I'm tired of screaming that "WAKE UP PEOPLE", people just won't listen :evil:

Oh, sorry Mr Climate-Change-Denier, you're right after all, thousands of climate scientists are in a huge global conspiracy just to stop you driving your gas-guzzling SUV. :roll:

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 12:43
by MadameButterfly
markfiend wrote:
MadameButterfly wrote:you all ken those words cause it's true, just like 1+1=2 and when the politics get in the way i can fuckingkill! WAKE UP PEOPLE!
I'm tired of screaming that "WAKE UP PEOPLE", people just won't listen :evil:

Oh, sorry Mr Climate-Change-Denier, you're right after all, thousands of climate scientists are in a huge global conspiracy just to stop you driving your gas-guzzling SUV. :roll:
Yeah our screams are falling on deaf ears. Oh well Mark at least we know that they will have to wake up when natural disasters start happening on a more frequent basis and also when the new/old illness or sickness starts killing off millions of people. The one thing they just DON'T get is that NO amount of money can buy us a new world.

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 13:35
by markfiend
I worry that it will be too late by then. I worry that it's already too late.

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 13:43
by Being645
It's never too late to get prepared ... though preparation, does include a few
decisions ... at the so-called political level, maybe, but very much more for
every individual person ... because we know, anyway, what "they" gonna
decide and what cost they will definitetely ask us to agree on sooner or later ...

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 14:35
by markfiend
I agree but this is the problem. With all the denialists, (many of whom I suspect are being paid off by the vested interests: oil companies, car companies, etc.) shouting their loudest, the voices of sanity go unheard at the political level.

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 14:39
by MadameButterfly
So true Mark and I also think we are too late.
Oh well we could always build an ark and let the animals in two by two one of each sort. :wink:

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 18:27
by Being645
You are really a sweet girl, MB ... but how about the other uncountable living beings, human, animal, vegetal?

Apart from the fact that the story of Noah seems to be a pretty fairy tale ...

Furture reality looks, IMHO, more like what's going on in the Mediterranean Sea every day already now ...

to give you a slight impression of what I'm takling about, see ...
http://www.unhcr.org/refworld/publisher ... 473,0.html

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 18:47
by MadameButterfly
Please Being, the only person that calls me "girl" is my own mother.

Of course the story of Noah was a fairy tale, but it's something we could do today! The other uncountable living humans, can all build their own ark, I'm not wanting to save the world for the people anyway! I'd only allow my family and friends onto my ark. Yes all animals great & small & of course when we talk animals you can never leave out funa & fona. See a thought out plan, needs oxygen so I'll have seeds of everything that can be grown and enough food on board to look after the animals.

Yes I also know what is going on in the Mediterranean Sea, the same as what is happening at the poles where the snow is melting on a daily basis too and all the rest of the pollution that man has caused and still causes, it's something that is already happening. If our undercurrent in the oceans stops moving we are dead very quickly anyway, if a comet hits us from outer space we are dead instinctly.

But where there is youth, and my youth at that, there will always be protecting, teaching and love. And my individual part to saving this world I'm doing and have been doing for decades already. It's a crap job trying to clean up the mess of generations before us. But it has to be done my dear.

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 19:31
by James Blast
I think we all need to take more drugs

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 19:32
by Being645
MadameButterfly wrote:Please Being, the only person that calls me "girl" is my own mother.
Oh, I'm not your mother, of course ... :wink: ... it was meant to be more
like a recognition for you optimism and sweetness as well ... not an
attempt to belittle you in any way. But I see, it might have sounded a bit
too much like that, so sorry.
MadameButterfly wrote: But where there is youth, and my youth at that, there will always be protecting, teaching and love. And my individual part to saving this world I'm doing and have been doing for decades already. It's a crap job trying to clean up the mess of generations before us. But it has to be done my dear.


Yes, and while some are trying to clean up the mess of generations
before us, others are busy trying to prevent further mess or to end
various sorts of mess going on all the time ... so, it's never too late,
there are people actually doing something ... and as you say: it has
to be done ... things will get harder, IMO, and this entails a hell lot
of mess of the ugliest sort which I really prefer to prevent as far as
I can contribute ... and for as many creatures as ever possible ...
whether they are my breed or not.

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 19:57
by James Blast
how do you contribute then, go on tell us?

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 20:13
by abridged
Personally I blame Ian McCulloch. I used so much hair-spray trying to get a bloody haircut like that back in the day... ;D

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 20:21
by Prescott
:(

1. Peak Oil
2. Peak Uranium
3. Peak Fish
4. Peak Coal
5. Peak Lithium
6. Peak Fresh Water
7. Peak Steel

And the worst thing to have already started to go into decline:



Peak Sisters' Records!!! :(

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 20:51
by James Blast
abridged wrote:Personally I blame Ian McCulloch. I used so much hair-spray trying to get a bloody haircut like that back in the day... ;D
there was a technique that involved no hairspray, Mac revealed it in an NME interview - "wrap a towel roun' ye 'ead wen ye come owt da shower an wear it till yer 'air's dry La"

worked for me, hairspray wasn't involved with my barnet till that Love & Rockets gig at the QMU, I had a g/f then and I was staying with her so I got sprayed up ;D

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 21:19
by MadameButterfly
Being645 wrote: Oh, I'm not your mother, of course ... :wink: ... it was meant to be more
like a recognition for you optimism and sweetness as well ... not an
attempt to belittle you in any way. But I see, it might have sounded a bit
too much like that, so sorry.
It's okay then, thanking you for the compliment, as I know I do come over as a bitch most of times.
Being645 wrote:Yes, and while some are trying to clean up the mess of generations
before us, others are busy trying to prevent further mess or to end
various sorts of mess going on all the time ... so, it's never too late,
there are people actually doing something ... and as you say: it has
to be done ... things will get harder, IMO, and this entails a hell lot
of mess of the ugliest sort which I really prefer to prevent as far as
I can contribute ... and for as many creatures as ever possible ...
whether they are my breed or not.
:lol: :lol: That mess will never be repaired. As long as there is still war going on that the governments earn their extras on, there will always be mess to clean up and sadly not enough people that GET IT, to really make a difference anyway. Like I have said before, as soon as money has the higher hand, those in power won't just give it away. Unless there is no money to fight over! One world law, can you see it happening?

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 22:19
by Being645
James Blast wrote:how do you contribute then, go on tell us?
Mainly by translating and/or circulating information ... or by arranging for information being translated and/or circulated ...

Posted: 28 Jan 2010, 22:48
by Being645
MadameButterfly wrote: It's okay then, thanking you for the compliment, as I know I do come over as a bitch most of times.
:wink: ... sometimes, but who doesn't? You've got a hell lot of energy, that's just how you are.
Me, I can appear quite high-handed at times, as far as I've often been told. But this is also due
to a sudden flood of energy, not because it were my intention ...

MadameButterfly wrote: :lol: :lol: That mess will never be repaired. As long as there is still war going on that the governments earn their extras on, there will always be mess to clean up and sadly not enough people that GET IT, to really make a difference anyway. Like I have said before, as soon as money has the higher hand, those in power won't just give it away. Unless there is no money to fight over! One world law, can you see it happening?

:( ... unfortunately I have no positive imagination of a one world law any longer ...
because they will go on squeezing even the last bit of life out of "their" human and
other lifestock in order to maintain their profit growth ...

But then again, I've always had that funny idea, that with one word, one move everything
could become so inevitably clear, that the whole system could no longer prevail the way it
works now. And anyway, IMHO, the "system" is not more than the point of development
we've reached so far and - to my personal taste - it's high time we developed further ... :twisted: : :lol: ...

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 17:24
by Erudite
Look on the bright side, the majority of the human race are going to get just what they deserve.
In my book that's worth ending up as collateral damage for. :!:

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 19:28
by boudicca
:lol: Are you feelin' the love Don?

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 19:34
by James Blast
I'm translating and/or circulating information ;D

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 20:06
by Bartek
one of my dream car is Land Rover and Aston Martin DB9 (yes i got small tinny penis).
it's not about denying facts but about checking information we got. but in the other hand give me a number and i'll...
what was whit this melting of Himalaya's glaciers 2035 or 2350, how cares.

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 20:11
by Big Si
Erudite wrote:Look on the bright side, the majority of the human race are going to get just what they deserve.
In my book that's worth ending up as collateral damage for. :!:
Aye, when the seas rise, you, Blaast, Androo and I will be on top of the Cairngorms getting pished! ;D

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 20:15
by James Blast
maybe, I think I might be arranging for information being translated and/or circulated ... ;D

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 20:20
by boudicca
:lol:

Si... will you just be leaving me to drown then? Well enjoy your little mountaintop picnic! Munch your shortbried with a clear conscience! :evil: :P :lol:

Posted: 29 Jan 2010, 20:21
by Big Si
boudicca wrote::lol:

Si... will you just be leaving me to drown then? Well enjoy your little mountaintop picnic! Munch your shortbried with a clear conscience! :evil: :P :lol:
I thought you couldnae swim? :innocent: ;D