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Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 20:26
by Randall Flagg
Victim of Circumstance wrote:Hmm, could be genuine.

The recording seems to be made at Portland Recording Studios (at least its the same address in London) and George Peckham, who often used to sign his recordings / masterings "A Porky Prim Cut" was a recording / mastering engineer there and did the mastering for Anaconda as far as I reckon...
Correct, remember that Porky 'cut' the record, produced the master via a lathe, from which the actual records would be made via the metals. This process would have also involved producing acetates.

The test pressings would usually come from the pressing plant where the record was made.

see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUGRRUecBik

Flagg

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 20:32
by Randall Flagg
Randall Flagg wrote:
Victim of Circumstance wrote:Hmm, could be genuine.

The recording seems to be made at Portland Recording Studios (at least its the same address in London) and George Peckham, who often used to sign his recordings / masterings "A Porky Prim Cut" was a recording / mastering engineer there and did the mastering for Anaconda as far as I reckon...
Correct, remember that Porky 'cut' the record, produced the master via a lathe, from which the actual records would be made via the metals. This process would have also involved producing acetates.

The test pressings would usually come from the pressing plant where the record was made.

see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUGRRUecBik

Flagg
see also part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IReDh9ec_rk&NR=1

You have to love vinyl......

Flagg

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 20:50
by Bertran De Born
yep, I agree; I have worked in the record industry for something like 15 years and I can confirm what you say.
But my item is definately not an acetate, which is:
- short lived ( plays usually 5 times)
- not the same colour as the standard vinyl
- very smelly
My 7" is definately a test press ( standard vinyl).

While on this matter, I'll tell you the story, in the late 9à's / early 00's when, as an international product manager (that's is releasing albums from artists coming from outside my coutnry), I was requested a memo from the german branch about the bankability of the Sisters Of Mercy in my country.
Needless to say it was a heartbreaker...

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 21:06
by Victim of Circumstance
Randall Flagg wrote: You have to love vinyl......
I do, otherwise - besides loving the Sisters anyway - I won't be a collector 8)

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 21:09
by Victim of Circumstance
Burzum wrote:yep, I agree; I have worked in the record industry for something like 15 years and I can confirm what you say.
But my item is definately not an acetate, which is:
- short lived ( plays usually 5 times)
- not the same colour as the standard vinyl
- very smelly
My 7" is definately a test press ( standard vinyl).

While on this matter, I'll tell you the story, in the late 9à's / early 00's when, as an international product manager (that's is releasing albums from artists coming from outside my coutnry), I was requested a memo from the german branch about the bankability of the Sisters Of Mercy in my country.
Needless to say it was a heartbreaker...
Hmm, strange, my first thought was, you had the acetate. But you're right that an acetate is quite different from the standard vinyl and is indeed very short lived, so there are two different tp's of Anaconda or did I miss something here???

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 21:22
by Bertran De Born
I came to the same conclusion, but this doesn't make any sense... unless one of them is a fake

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 21:49
by Victim of Circumstance
Burzum wrote:I came to the same conclusion, but this doesn't make any sense... unless one of them is a fake
After all, I think they might be both genuine, but what does the ROGI of your copy state :?:

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 21:59
by Randall Flagg
Burzum wrote:I came to the same conclusion, but this doesn't make any sense... unless one of them is a fake
can you post a pic of the disc, label and ROGI?

Flagg

Posted: 26 Sep 2011, 22:08
by Bertran De Born
yep, http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TCX4HK8R

ROGI says
Side A " a porky prime cut" & "nothing"
Side B: "spiggy rides again" & "MPO" & "MR019 AA1"

I don't know if you guys know this, but MPO goes for "Mayenne Plastique Organisation" which is the name of a company who used to (and still does) manufacture vinyl. This is the reason why some "originals" were made in France.Guess it was cheaper.

Posted: 28 Sep 2011, 15:53
by Victim of Circumstance
Through the Years box sold for €131.00

Posted: 30 Sep 2011, 13:47
by the-happening
Victim of Circumstance wrote:
Burzum wrote:yep, I agree; I have worked in the record industry for something like 15 years and I can confirm what you say.
But my item is definately not an acetate, which is:
- short lived ( plays usually 5 times)
- not the same colour as the standard vinyl
- very smelly
My 7" is definately a test press ( standard vinyl).

While on this matter, I'll tell you the story, in the late 9à's / early 00's when, as an international product manager (that's is releasing albums from artists coming from outside my coutnry), I was requested a memo from the german branch about the bankability of the Sisters Of Mercy in my country.
Needless to say it was a heartbreaker...
Hmm, strange, my first thought was, you had the acetate. But you're right that an acetate is quite different from the standard vinyl and is indeed very short lived, so there are two different tp's of Anaconda or did I miss something here???
Sorry but it is a fake, Porky Labels are not black and white, the pig should be piggy pink not white, the address is wrong as well. Acetates as mentioned should be heavier etc. and test pressings for early merciful release (Alice, TOL, Anconda and RH) and Body Electric on CNT were MPO / Echantillon, this is neither, I have seen another fake Anaconda TP with the adress details blackened out.

Posted: 01 Oct 2011, 13:28
by ribbons69
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SISTERS-MERCY ... 43a9eebb90

It looks okay,but the price is a bit steep,and there is almost no information about what you are actually getting!

Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 01:35
by 10-E Rabid
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Perucke-Heavy-Me ... 519ab905a9

Step right up and get your...........Hair!!!!! Now you too can look like The Sisters of Mercy!!

Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 01:48
by 10-E Rabid
So here you all go if this has not been mentioned....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sisters-Mercy ... 1c1fd30bd3
Yep. To small fer this cat. Better start exercising......after the sandwich and chips. Picture to the right does not reflect my current state, that was 10 years ago.

Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 09:34
by markfiend
10-E Rabid wrote:So here you all go if this has not been mentioned....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sisters-Mercy ... 1c1fd30bd3
Yep. To small fer this cat. Better start exercising......after the sandwich and chips. Picture to the right does not reflect my current state, that was 10 years ago.
Seller chriskirk19 -- I'm sure that name rings a bell.

Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 17:34
by Being645
markfiend wrote:
10-E Rabid wrote:So here you all go if this has not been mentioned....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sisters-Mercy ... 1c1fd30bd3
Yep. To small fer this cat. Better start exercising......after the sandwich and chips. Picture to the right does not reflect my current state, that was 10 years ago.
Seller chriskirk19 -- I'm sure that name rings a bell.
Not with me. You think it needs explanation?

Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 18:17
by ribbons69
Being645 wrote:
markfiend wrote:
10-E Rabid wrote:So here you all go if this has not been mentioned....
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sisters-Mercy ... 1c1fd30bd3
Yep. To small fer this cat. Better start exercising......after the sandwich and chips. Picture to the right does not reflect my current state, that was 10 years ago.
Seller chriskirk19 -- I'm sure that name rings a bell.
Not with me. You think it needs explanation?
It's familiar to me,but only because I bought some shirts of him via ebay this week. Had some rare ones... :innocent:

Posted: 15 Oct 2011, 21:53
by Being645
ribbons69 wrote:
Being645 wrote:
markfiend wrote:Seller chriskirk19 -- I'm sure that name rings a bell.
Not with me. You think it needs explanation?
It's familiar to me,but only because I bought some shirts of him via ebay this week. Had some rare ones... :innocent:
Yes, of course. I've seen these shirts as well. But the term of "ringing a bell" has a slightly different connotation in my comprehension. Maybe, I'm wrong though. That's why I asked (among other aspects).

Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 11:16
by markfiend
Sorry. All I meant was that I'm fairly sure that I know (or knew) a Chris Kirk from Leeds some years ago.

Not a very interesting story. ;D

Posted: 16 Oct 2011, 11:42
by ribbons69
markfiend wrote:Sorry. All I meant was that I'm fairly sure that I know (or knew) a Chris Kirk from Leeds some years ago.

Not a very interesting story. ;D
" Item location,Leeds West Yorkshire"
:wink:

Posted: 19 Oct 2011, 19:25
by taylor

Posted: 22 Oct 2011, 17:19
by Victim of Circumstance
Nice one, but a bit expensive

Psychedelic Sessions

Posted: 27 Oct 2011, 19:25
by Victim of Circumstance
This beauty might get quite expensive IMO:

Black Dominion box ltd. 20

Go for it, one of the rarest bootlegs around :wink:

Posted: 02 Nov 2011, 20:54
by Rise891

Posted: 02 Nov 2011, 21:01
by xfloorshowx
Unfortunately the vinyl is missing :urff: