Heartland

robertzombie wrote:Mother Russia is extended by 10 seconds at the end, Flood II is a different vocal mix, and Never Land is.... https://youtu.be/pyZwO44oeH0

OMG! That version of Never Land is a different mix
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I found this on stevehoffman.tv, written by Robert.

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I just finished listening. For a Sisters fan that was quite a jarring experience. This album is famous for containing different mixes on its myriad releases (LP, CD, cassette) but they're generally slight changes in length. The version of the album contained here has different musical mixes. ie, There are pieces of music contained on this remaster that I've not heard before. I own 2 copies of this LP on vinyl (European LP and US promo), 3 CDs (original European and US releases, 2006 remaster), and 1 cassette (European).

Here's my round-up:

Dominion / Mother Russia: About 50 seconds longer than the original LP. Mother Russia has an extended outro with previously unheard (for me) drum and choir parts.

Flood I: Clean intro, no Mother Russia crossfade.

Lucretia: More pronounced bass. Probably just a result of the new mastering.

1959: The piano is softer than before, no 'clang'. Probably just a result of the new mastering.

This Corrosion: Longer than the LP version, shorter than the really long CD single version.

Flood II: Clean intro, no Corrosion crossfade. Added delay on "Flood, flood, flood" - I haven't heard it like this before. The thunder roll appears in short quiet bursts earlier in the song. Synth is more pronounced. The single saxophone note is missing from the outro.

Driven like the Snow: Same as the CD version but the ambient intro is slightly shorter.

Never Land: Completely unique. Barely any reverb on the drums and bass. It sounds a bit like the "Full Length" version we hear on the Rhino CD.​

SHTV is where I go to discuss things about the Sisters that would get me laughed off here

I see your point - some things I have posted about also seem to have gained no traction.

Amazing that there are cold intros on the 2 Floods. I've wanted them for ages...

Sounds like you need a turntable

I have a turntable: Technics SL-QD33 / AT Cartridge, but have some fearsome buzz that I can't get rid of. Also have access to a Lynn Axis, but must solve buzzing first.

I found this anyway: LINK REMOVED

Gaijin wrote: I found this anyway: http://uploaded.net/file/qggpy6ka

Is it legit?

Hihi ... looks like a rip of the 2013 MOFI ... .. well, legit ... ...

FACT is, that any questionable items or not all that public links are usually found in the Sharing Section ... that's what it's for, IIRC ... ...

JohnR wrote:The Some Boys Wander boot includes what is labeled as "Body and Soul (Special 12" EP Version)." Are there actually different mixes of this song? Does Slight Case of Overbombing include the 7" mix, and this 12" mix is unavailable on CD?

Correct, ASCOO features the 7" mix which is duller sounding. the 12" version is noticeably brighter and i think has more reverb effects on drums.

Ok then, just came across this.

https://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic ... i&start=25

It get's relevant from post #38.

Is it possible the turntable needs "grounding"?

AdrenaChris wrote:Correct, ASCOO features the 7" mix which is duller sounding. the 12" version is noticeably brighter and i think has more reverb effects on drums.

Ah, that's it. I always wondered why B&S sounded so bleak on ASCOO.

Another possibke one to add: The cassette single of This Corrosion has a shorter version of Colours. However, I don't have the CD single, so it my be on that too.

stufarq wrote:Another possibke one to add: The cassette single of This Corrosion has a shorter version of Colours. However, I don't have the CD single, so it my be on that too.

The cassette and the cd single both have the times printed on them.
Colours on the CD is listed as being 4:15 and the cassette lists it as 4:16. I've not compared them to see if they're different but it could be that one timing is rounded up and the other is rounded down?

They'll be the same. It's common when a track is put on to a different format for the timings to be slightly different.

Is it too picky to point out that the More video has a unique version? It's longer than the 7" as it uses the full ending.

stufarq wrote:
Is it too picky to point out that the More video has a unique version? It's longer than the 7" as it uses the full ending.

The More video soundtrack is unique.

The 7" also lost some B.Vox (edited at 1:15 - 1:22).

Doctor Jeep:

The edit that I previously thought was unique to the 7" is also on Side A of the cassette single. Curiously, Side B of that cassette utilises a version of Doctor Jeep that is an edit of the extended version

Gaijin wrote:Nice shares @robertzombie

Your two TC uploads are of the edits that appear on the cassette single (among other sources).

In an issue of UTG they are labelled as:

This Corrosion (7" Mk. I) - which is a little easier than 'Black Label Promo Edit' - is the shorter.
This Corrosion (7" Mk. II) - Steinman's Edit

The short version is available on a 1998 CD called Nocturnal http://www.discogs.com/Various-Nocturnal/master/153446, and the Steinman edit can be done digitally from the CDS, but I'm sure your conversion is tops.

Which issue please?

robertzombie wrote:Doctor Jeep:

The edit that I previously thought was unique to the 7" is also on Side A of the cassette single. Curiously, Side B of that cassette utilises a version of Doctor Jeep that is an edit of the extended version

Ah, slight correction. The 7" edit appears to be on the cassette's b-side. The a-side sounds like an edit of the album mix (identified by its more prominent high-end/cymbals etc).