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Posted: 16 Nov 2016, 19:06
by euphoria
markfiend wrote: And quite frankly I'm astonished that anyone thinks that the US's foreign adventures are likely to be reined in by Trump.
More so than under HRC I think, yes. She did her best to persuade Obama to choose a military solution in Syria.
But, hard to say for sure until 2020 (or earlier..)

At least it's the first president I hear who is even questioning exactly where the US military support goes, this is from today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gDEV3vo9TbY

I disagree strongly with him on environment and wouldn't build a program on alienating a close neighbour country and I could go on a lot, but he does sound as if he is truly against random military intervention.

The Iraq war was set out to "liberate" the people and install democracy, yet turned into total slaughter, chaos and disaster.

Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 02:47
by sultan2075
Honesty, Mark, I don't have a dog in this fight. Both options were awful.

My fervent hope is that the combination of a vitriolic media, an angry Democratic Party, and a less-than-pleased Republican Party will lead to a) a rediscovery of checks and balances and b) a re-assertion of legislative power over and against the executive. If we can Make the Constitution Great Again, I'll be happy. If we stop invading various barbarian nations abroad and return to the rule of law at home, I'll be ecstatic.

The horrible thing is that we have a better (still slim) chance of this with Trump than we had with Hillary.

Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 10:06
by markfiend
Sorry my friend, I guess I just want someone to shout at. :lol:

Edit to add: :lol: it looks like Randall Munroe is reading my mind:
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Posted: 18 Nov 2016, 13:43
by sultan2075
No worries, it's cool :von:

Also a natural reaction to this mixed up, muddled up, shook up world.