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Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 10:18
by Quiff Boy
Black Biscuit wrote:I am of the opinion that some of the things said by feminists and lesbians are indeed crap. But that doesn't make me a Falwell supporter.
and many things said by chauvinistic heterosexual men are also crap. never forget that
blanket statements like that are ridiculous.
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 10:25
by doc P
Johnny M wrote:It's been a a very surreal day. Physically and emotionally draining.
Stranger to stranger helping out.
I've never considered myself as a Londoner even though I spend most of my waking hours there but after today I do.
was good to hear that nothing happened to you
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 10:26
by Black Biscuit
When didn't I? Or are you referring to me personally? Mine was not (intended as) a blanket statement, but whoever issues them is certainly full of crap.
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 10:27
by markfiend
Black Biscuit wrote:So, is the killing of innocent commuters, rather than high-profle politicians, 'safer' because there;s less retribution, or is it coz the pollys can't be as easily accessed?
A bit of both I reckon. Safer in that the politicians are pretty well-guarded, but I think there's also what I guess Bush would call the "shock and awe" factor.
Deliberately trying to cause outrage...
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 10:30
by Black Dahlia
Hello all , they sent us home yesterday hence loss of transmission. Managed to get a train from London Bridge so I had a much easier time of getting home than most (poor Johnny M!) for which Im grateful. Police cordon still up next to the office and helicopters overhead. TV crews still here first thing but they seem to have left now. Very , very quiet here which makes for quite an odd feeling as its usually so busy.
Really chuffed about Heartlanders concern for us in London yesterday
Thankyou.
BD
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 10:52
by Black Biscuit
Yeah, well, narrow-minded extremism in all its forms ought to be frowned upon, right Quiffy?
I got an e-mail from a friend in London just five minutes ago. He said he's okay, doing well, all that. He has a house in Stoke Newington and a spare room there as well, but I don't want to go back to the UK. Nothing wrong with it, but I need a reason to be going there. Anyway, I move to New York next summer and looking forward to it....
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 11:34
by Shadow_Smile
I was shocked when I saw the news,........
it is a pretty sick thing that happend.
hope they find these loser !!!
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 11:41
by Black Biscuit
Okay so theres this guy lives in a cave and a trillion dollar hightech army cant find him
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 12:01
by MrChris
Or doesn't want to. But that's a long story, isn't it?
I've just been thinking about one major difference between this, and, say, 9/11 and perhaps even Madrid. In those cases, unless you're a real conspiracy theorist, the attacks were SOMETHING of a surprise, at least in the details. So much so that they were initially blamed on other people (e.g. ETA). But in this case, we were highly prepared, we'd had the drills, we were supposed to be vigilant. Does that make it better or worse? I think in a way it makes it better - i.e. 'we were prepared, we had the plans in place, we weren't beaten'. But on the other hand it could be worse - we had the plans in place, we were vigilant, and STILL this happened. The plans and vigilance didn't work.
I sincerely hope that this doesn't lead to a ratcheting up of the paranoia. I THINK that British people know enough not to go around attacking people with turbans, who look 'foreign' or 'funny'. I certainly hope so, anyway.
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 13:17
by Brideoffrankenstein
I'm going to Brighton which involves going through London this evening. I phone up the relevant train people to find out if I can actually go and they tell me one thing, the web says another! Argh!
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 13:20
by Quiff Boy
Brideoffrankenstein wrote:I'm going to Brighton which involves going through London this evening. I phone up the relevant train people to find out if I can actually go and they tell me one thing, the web says another! Argh!
the train people are probably located in bangalore though, so may not be as up-to-date as the web people... where as the web people are always wrong.
good luck!
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 13:22
by Brideoffrankenstein
Quiff Boy wrote:Brideoffrankenstein wrote:I'm going to Brighton which involves going through London this evening. I phone up the relevant train people to find out if I can actually go and they tell me one thing, the web says another! Argh!
the train people are probably located in bangalore though, so may not be as up-to-date as the web people... where as the web people are always wrong.
good luck!
Oh, well........thanks!
I am getting more confused by the minute! Perhaps I should stop looking now
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 13:23
by Quiff Boy
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 15:48
by James Blast
this was posted by a mate on another forum
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 16:22
by Johnny M
Nice one James! Too f*cking right!
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 16:40
by ruffers
Nicely put
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 17:32
by Obviousman
lazarus corporation wrote:Daily Mail - 8th July:
Make no mistake Britain will almost certainly have to sacrifice some of
our ancient legal rights if we wish to protect our citizens
Didn't take longer for those right-wing bastards to spot an opportunity to exploit, did it.
Surprises me they did wait 'til after this... Bastards indeed
ruffers wrote:A key difference is that the Spanish then changed their policy re Iraq and that ain't gonna happen here.
I am very much a pacifist and against the Irak war, but, does anyone else find terrorist attacks on your own county are the wrong reason to pull back from a war
James Blast wrote:this was posted by a mate on another forum
Very right indeed
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 18:19
by Eva
James Blast wrote:this was posted by a mate on another forum
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 20:40
by canon docre
Black Biscuit wrote:I am of the opinion that some of the things said by feminists and lesbians are indeed crap.
For example?
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 20:43
by James Blast
"cut their gooleys off"
ask me
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 20:49
by Black Alice
@ruffers - I was down south during the 70's and the IRA attacks and for some reason I felt more panicked yesterday than at that time. My Dad worked in and around London then too, but I think that it was the hysteria of the women in my office that got to me and I just
had to know where he was. He's a salesman and his patch has always been South London, but, as a good salesman, he is known to wander further afield in an attempt to extend his patch so we never know where he is.
I think, as well, streaming media has made it all more
real and living so far away I now feel out of the loop - I can only stand and watch, I can't join in with the "f**k 'em" spirit.
@Johnny - so glad you were ok - but sorry that you had such a trek - mind you, you do seem to have a knack of making friends (on the hoof
)
I have to say that I
hate the idea that the right-wingers will now use this as an excuse to introduce id cards - how can these help
- good quotes btw
markfiend
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 20:50
by lazarus corporation
Quiff Boy wrote:blanket statements like that are ridiculous.
are you saying that
all blanket statements like that are ridiculous?
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 20:53
by James Blast
Alice read The Rotters' Club, it'll give ye a real flava flave of the times
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 20:56
by Black Alice
James Blast wrote:Alice read The Rotters' Club, it'll give ye a real flava flave of the times
Is it likely to put the blood pressure up
I do tend to rant when aggravated
Just thought I should ask so that I could warn Paul before I start reading it
Posted: 08 Jul 2005, 21:02
by James Blast
nah, its a good read
but maybies for us blokes who were moving from prog to punk, like I was
still a good book