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Posted: 03 Jan 2007, 10:10
by Badlander
King of Byblos wrote:
Woudn't he be better off in a cell in the Hague/European War Criminals Intitute than dead and on the news every fifteen minutes; slowly being margianalised as the rest of the world moves on?
Of course he would.
Justice is about making things right, it's not about petty revenge.
Posted: 03 Jan 2007, 11:15
by markfiend
itnAklipse wrote:...the lies we have been told by the zionist-controlled media...
This is hate-speech. You're the one being lied to by your Nazi websites.
itnAklipse wrote:The site,
anti-semitic-hate-site, is in general a pretty good site about the zionist-conspiracy and especially their 911-research is good.
Are you serious?
9-11? The Jews are to blame -- oh, wait, we can't call them Jews we have to call them "Zionists" so people can't call us anti-semitic.
The Holocaust? The Jews are to blame. UFOs? A Zionist plot.
If you seriously believe this conspiracy stuff, you need help. It's paranoia. Blaming a single group for all the ills of this world is quite frankly insane.
You're sailing very close to the wind with this stuff.
Posted: 03 Jan 2007, 11:42
by Badlander
@ Mark : seconded.
Posted: 03 Jan 2007, 11:50
by canon docre
actually
Mark, I don't think it makes any sense to indulge in arguments with a antisemit, it just fuels his hate and paranoia.
To be honest I would prefer those links to be removed, because:
and i hope at least one person would've thought about the things i said seriously
If that happened we have to blame ourselves for having given him such a forum.
Posted: 03 Jan 2007, 11:54
by Silver_Owl
canon docre wrote:actually
Mark, I don't think it makes any sense to indulge in arguments with a antisemit, it just fuels his hate and paranoia.
To be honest I would prefer those links to be removed, because:
and i hope at least one person would've thought about the things i said seriously
If that happened we have to blame ourselves for having given him such a forum.
Agreed
Jess. I find it all a bit scary to be honest.
Posted: 03 Jan 2007, 11:56
by Badlander
canon docre wrote:actually
Mark, I don't think it makes any sense to indulge in arguments with a antisemit, it just fuels his hate and paranoia.
To be honest I would prefer those links to be removed, because:
and i hope at least one person would've thought about the things i said seriously
If that happened we have to blame ourselves for having given him such a forum.
As I said earlier, freedom of speech is
not without limits, and I think this clearly shows why. And don't get me wrong : it's not about forcing anybody into silence. It's about
not giving extremist ideas an unnecessary forum. And I
do know it sometimes
seems to be close to censorship.
Posted: 03 Jan 2007, 12:12
by markfiend
Thread locked. QB will be along later to add a closing word. In the mean time, the links to anti-semitic sites will be removed.
Posted: 03 Jan 2007, 12:14
by Quiff Boy
right.
i categorically will not have heartland used to promote the deranged rantings of hate sites like the ones mentioned earlier on in this post.
obviously an individual's political views are their own, but never forget that ultimately this is my site & its my name above the door (as it were). i will not be seen as condoning views of that nature. they are very much opposed to what i believe in, and i personally find that school of thought loathsome and utterly without merit.
its is human nature to look for patterns in everything, and it is also human nature to look for a conspiracy behind everything. attributing the worlds evils to a specific group of peoples removes the possibility that we are just a seriously f**ked up species, and that we are all capable of a great many evils regardless of race, religion, or political affiliation.
cry whatever phrase you wish to, but i will not have my "back garden" fouled by mention of these despicable, hate-driven and paranoia-fuelled organisations & their websites.
enough is enough.
if anyone wishes to continue pouring forth the kind of bile i have seen quoted here, please take it elsewhere. sadly, there are plenty of other places on the internet where individuals can gather to share such opinions.