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Posted: 09 Mar 2009, 21:06
by Bartek
thanks for those mp3s :notworthy:

Posted: 09 Mar 2009, 21:34
by euphoria
Methedrome wrote:Could it appear the range rover line ends with "roamin'"
Suggesting "Live your life in a (Blank) roamin',
for the Mercedes Benz."
Maybe that would fit in as in "make sense", but what I -hear- is as good as exactly Roman - the German word sung by a Brit who knows what he's doing. And frankly I do think that could fit in and make sense, if we only could unite on the word before Roman. I think I've even heard the n at the end in some version.

We're just running around in circles, aren't we? :?

Posted: 09 Mar 2009, 23:42
by DocSommer
Regarding line 4 I'd say that it's definetely something with "mercedes benz" - you can hear out the "d" (Mer-ce-des) very well if you listen to the vid.

Posted: 09 Mar 2009, 23:54
by Bartek
"Mercedes Benz" line is for sure,all we doesn't know now is what car is mentioned before this. :wink:
maybe that's how he's going to rise a budget for days after stop "singing" -putting a ad lines into his lyrics and get a cash from companies what he's advertise :lol:

Posted: 09 Mar 2009, 23:57
by euphoria
Absolutely, I agree, line 4 is "(f)or the Mercedes Benz" - it's line 3 that is making my hair grey! Biggest problem: sometimes it sounds like there are only two syllables, like "rate room" or something, but mostly something like "rage roam-ahn".

Posted: 10 Mar 2009, 14:19
by target
"Throw a key and call her someday"
sometimes it sounds like "call the thunder"
while in other versions or the other verse it definitly sounds like sun-/some day

Posted: 10 Mar 2009, 21:34
by stufarq
Paris available here courtesy of doctoravalanche. Doesn't really make things clearer though.

Posted: 15 Mar 2009, 17:17
by DocSommer
got an interesting video comment on youtube:
sue1626 (vor 55 Minuten):
the line is not wraith roman. It's simply wraith room, which would mean spirit room, essentially a bar. He is describing himself.

Posted: 15 Mar 2009, 18:50
by stufarq
Wrong kind of spirit. "Wraith" is spirit as in ghost, not alcohol.

Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 01:59
by eotunun
Throw your love under Lorre, perhaps? Data's evil twin? Star Treck?
Coat, I know. :|

Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 10:50
by Quiff Boy
eotunun wrote:Throw your love under Lorre, perhaps? Data's evil twin? Star Treck?
Coat, I know. :|
peter lorre?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Lorre :?:

Image

:lol:

Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 22:45
by Gary
Bartek wrote:"Mercedes Benz" line is for sure,all we doesn't know now is what car is mentioned before this. :wink:
maybe that's how he's going to rise a budget for days after stop "singing" -putting a ad lines into his lyrics and get a cash from companies what he's advertise :lol:
before I read this thread I heard it as "live your life in the rear view, of a Mercedes Benz"

Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 19:00
by mandrake
ok. I just had a thought. Didn't Eldritch once say in an interview he sold his back catelogue for a Mercedes, cos he wanted one even if he couldn't drive it himself....
So..is Arms maybe a reflection of sorts. There always a bit of truth and mystery to his songs.

Just a thought.

Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 19:40
by 7anthea7
mandrake wrote:Didn't Eldritch once say in an interview he sold his back catelogue for a Mercedes, cos he wanted one even if he couldn't drive it himself....
Don't know about the driving bit - the transcription I have indicates that in response to the question of why he did it, he swung the keys in front of the interviewer, and said that he'd never been able to afford to own a car before. He certainly owned a Mercedes, although it would appear he got rid of it...
The official site (which makes it ancient history) wrote:For sale: F registered Mercedes 230E, white, automatic, two previous owners. Answers to the name "Enterprise". One scuffed bumper and a slight dent in one back door. No phaser damage.
...in favour of something, whilst not a Range Rover, still very much of that ilk. :wink:
Today's vehicle of choice is a long-wheelbase Nissan Patrol, which looks like a tank and drives like ... a car, only much slower. Some people will tell you that the words "turbo diesel intercooler" sound sexy. I'm not one of them. I also believe that if you want to throw almost two and a half tonnes down the road, it might be nice to have more than two and a half litres to do it with (actually more than 2.8). Never mind. The Patrol's got room for Big Stuff, and the ashtray in the Merc is full.

Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 22:31
by stufarq
Lisbon courtesy of circle. Very growly.

Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 22:36
by stufarq
Gary wrote:before I read this thread I heard it as "live your life in the rear view, of a Mercedes Benz"
I think you might be right about "of a Mercedes Benz" but sadly I don't think it's "rear view". Wish it was.

Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 18:05
by Llamatron
The Patrol's got room for Big Stuff
The Doktor. :lol:

Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 10:08
by iesus
\o/
Dear fellow Heartlanders i found out the meaning of one of the lyrics in Arms....

"Through keen and ...."

The answer is in "http://www.keen.com/" :innocent:
If you have a look at it, you will find out phone lines in America with extreme charges and mostly women psychics tell the future with Tarrot like the followings:

Psycard
Fastest Answers On Keen! Details and Solutions. Details

TishaLee
NY Radio Psychic. Featured on 95.5 WPLJ Details
$5.99 per min.


Nick Vauss
*Clairvoyant*See all by ONLY a name-SEEN ON TV!!!! Details
$7.77 per min.


etc...
That reminds me ofcourse the Sisters classic reference in Alice
"Pass the crystal spread the tarot
In illusion comfort lies"

Therefor i am pretty sure that the line closes with "call her someday"
8)

Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 20:48
by Casar
To these ears it definately sounds like "throw the key and call her some day" and "throw your love under law". . I cant imagine Von employing such a service as keen even if he has been on drugs a lot....that´s like the last exit for the lost.

For some reason I associate some of the lyrics with a kind of a gaming vocabularly, like Tombraider. "hammer drawn", "locked and loaded", "throw senseless steel". "love under law" sounds like a reference to occultist Crowley´s scribblings.

Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 09:23
by iesus
i didn't say that :von: call at such services :lol: :lol: :notworthy:
i only said that maybe he makes a reference to clairvoyants and fortune-tellers and then the end of the line as "call her someday" or "call her Sunday" makes a sense after all... :P ;D
for one thing i am pretty sure, it is not ""throw the key" :innocent: :notworthy:
i have become obsessed by the song and hear it for many days now and it has nothing to do with key in this line :roll:

Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 15:21
by stufarq
Having watched Von's mouth while singing this, I'm now pretty certain that the "Throw a key" or whatever line doesn't finish "some day". His lips didn't form an "m" shape - looked more like an "n". Could be "Sunday" as previously suggested or "sun" something etc but not, I think, "some day".

Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 15:34
by Quiff Boy
stufarq wrote:Having watched Von's mouth while singing this, I'm now pretty certain that the "Throw a key" or whatever line doesn't finish "some day". His lips didn't form an "m" shape - looked more like an "n". Could be "Sunday" as previously suggested or "sun" something etc but not, I think, "some day".
^ what he said.

Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 15:53
by stufarq
How sad are we both?

Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 15:55
by Quiff Boy
aye :lol:

Posted: 09 Apr 2009, 20:52
by 7anthea7
stufarq wrote:How sad are we both?
...all... :wink: