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What?Moakahontas wrote: ..are you kidding me??..skinny junkie..man! f**k off!:eek:
He was skinny..that´s true..but he isn´t that skinny anymore like in the early eighties, I think...DeWinter wrote:What?Moakahontas wrote: ..are you kidding me??
I don't see how anyone can deny he's skinny. His songs reference substance abuse fairly often, and he admits it freely himself. And as for the teeth..substance abuse and Northern English dentistry do not a set of pearly whites make.
In those few instances when his teeth have been been visible, it can be noted that a) they have rather typically English crookedness, although b) not to any great extreme, e.g. Bowie's prior to their, erm, upgrade.Moakahontas wrote:And the teeth..come on..its not that bad..
All of the above are the result of chronic, long-term meth use. I'm afraid Von doesn't actually qualify. If he did, the state of his teeth would be the least of his symptoms.Snorting Meth also causes chemical damage to teeth. Snorting draws the caustic substances down the nasal passages, draining in the back of the throat and bathing the teeth with corrosive substances.
Meth Mouth Symptoms:
Dry Mouth - Saliva acts as a buffer against acidic substances in the mouth, neutralizing it and protecting teeth against acidic foods like lemons, acid from the gut or acidic plaque. The average person creates around one liter of saliva a day. If saliva production is reduced, oral bacteria levels can increase ten times over normal levels.
Meth dries out the salivary glands. Without saliva, the acidic substances can eat away at the minerals in tooth enamel, causing holes or weak spots that turn into cavities. Other medications dry the mouth but Meth is especially bad.
Tooth Decay - Meth users are notorious for trying to treat cottonmouth with lots of sugary soda. The bacteria that feed on the sugars in the mouth secrete acid, which leads to more tooth decay. Also, Meth users aren’t likely to floss, brush and rinse when high.
A typical cavity starts in-between two teeth. It eventually invades the tooth and destroys it from the inside out. Crank decay invariably starts at the gum line - it eventually spreads around the entire tooth, eating swathes of enamel in its wake.
Cracked Teeth - Because the drug can make them feel anxious or nervous, causing them to clench or grind their teeth, regular Meth users may develop cracks in their teeth.
Gum Disease - Teeth and gums need blood to stay healthy. Meth causes the vessels that supply blood to oral tissues to shrink up. Reduced blood supply causes tissues to break down. With repeated shrinking, the blood vessels don’t recover and tissues die.
a) Then why bring it up, especially in the manner in which you chose to do so?DeWinter wrote:I'm not especially interested in his appearance myself. Just annoys me hearing the old Fat Pat comments. She isn't even that big.
... I feel almost guilty now, because I joked some weeks ago 
... It took a while and a few attempts to find the right dentist, though. 
... 
... I think, he had this done long ago. Because a singer needs his teeth. 
Amen, brother!DeWinter wrote:I'm not especially interested in his appearance myself. Just annoys me hearing the old Fat Pat comments. She isn't even that big.
Some people on here just think having a go gives them some kind of Eldritch brownie-points, just like saying "go figure" and over-use of the word "oblique".
It seems people aren't willing to accept Eldo can be a bit of a tit sometimes, despite ample evidence. I'll happily admit my rock idol Mr McCoy is a few twinkles short of a glitter. Doesn't affect my ears even if he is a loon.
It indeed could have been! That name is familiar, although we were between gigs and I was not entirely present!Andy Christ 666 wrote: Tim, is that church just outside the centre of Walsall, it looks very familiar.
Yep.DeWinter wrote:I'm not especially interested in his appearance myself. Just annoys me hearing the old Fat Pat comments. She isn't even that big.
Some people on here just think having a go gives them some kind of Eldritch brownie-points, just like saying "go figure" and over-use of the word "oblique".
It seems people aren't willing to accept Eldo can be a bit of a tit sometimes, despite ample evidence. I'll happily admit my rock idol Mr McCoy is a few twinkles short of a glitter. Doesn't affect my ears even if he is a loon.
And yepmarkfiend wrote:Indeed.
It's like the "Let's all take the p!ss out of Wayne" crowd.
... at least, we seem to be through with his teeth by now ... We are. Yapp!Being645 wrote:
But he makes it so easymarkfiend wrote:Indeed.
It's like the "Let's all take the p!ss out of Wayne" crowd.
She didn't pop out of the blue, lad. She was in Goodbye Mr MacKenzie in the '80s and then Angelfish in the '90s before being recruited to form a Curve-soundalike band.Deviancy wrote: But I od'd in the 90's when Shirley Manson popped out of the blue.
Which Mr McCoy? the bassist or the one from Hanoi Rocks?DeWinter wrote:I'm not especially interested in his appearance myself. Just annoys me hearing the old Fat Pat comments. She isn't even that big.
Some people on here just think having a go gives them some kind of Eldritch brownie-points, just like saying "go figure" and over-use of the word "oblique".
It seems people aren't willing to accept Eldo can be a bit of a tit sometimes, despite ample evidence. I'll happily admit my rock idol Mr McCoy is a few twinkles short of a glitter. Doesn't affect my ears even if he is a loon.
a major fear of the dentist, need a strong dose of valium before I go. I wonder if my habit when I was younger made them worse, I never went for soft drinks though mostly Scotch or coffee or pernod. Von didn't hide the fact that Patricia was to strengthen rather the visual part of the band..eastmidswhizzkid wrote:its quite simple: eldritch was pretty much operating as a one-man band, but needed other "band-members" for top-of-the-pops appearances, etc. after all, it was meant to be the next incarnation of The Sisters, not an eldritch solo project.
Patsy's membership gave the faux-band a credibility; not only as a highly recognisable second member, but also one with a musical history in a band Sisters fans would have heard of.
add to that the fact that visually, her and eldritch represented a male and female goth ideal: a king-and-queen icon for darklings. (even from a hetero-centrically minded corporate A&R viewpoint) if the girls wanted to look like her and the boys wanted to f**k her, and the boys wanted to look like eldritch while the girls wanted to f**k him, patsy's membership was a stroke of promotional genius.
once the promotion for floodland and the singles thereof, had ended patsy was surpus to (eldritch's) requirements. if she had become a babysitter to eldritch and his habits and/or a love-interest are irrelevant, except for being possible factors in expediting her departure.
not at all, why should he? and that is more honest than when he says he wanted someone to play the bass. why? theres no-one to play the other instruments and no intention of playingh live anyway. i mean, a bass player has been absent from his actual working band for decades! even when TJ was with them they used to turn him down half the time.Joy wrote:Von didn't hide the fact that Patricia was to strengthen rather the visual part of the band..eastmidswhizzkid wrote:its quite simple: eldritch was pretty much operating as a one-man band, but needed other "band-members" for top-of-the-pops appearances, etc. after all, it was meant to be the next incarnation of The Sisters, not an eldritch solo project.
Patsy's membership gave the faux-band a credibility; not only as a highly recognisable second member, but also one with a musical history in a band Sisters fans would have heard of.
add to that the fact that visually, her and eldritch represented a male and female goth ideal: a king-and-queen icon for darklings. (even from a hetero-centrically minded corporate A&R viewpoint) if the girls wanted to look like her and the boys wanted to f**k her, and the boys wanted to look like eldritch while the girls wanted to f**k him, patsy's membership was a stroke of promotional genius.
once the promotion for floodland and the singles thereof, had ended patsy was surpus to (eldritch's) requirements. if she had become a babysitter to eldritch and his habits and/or a love-interest are irrelevant, except for being possible factors in expediting her departure.