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Posted: 15 Apr 2010, 09:23
by Quiff Boy
what learning java will do is give you a good grounding in the basic principles of OO

inheritance, abstraction, reuse, the values of design patterns, etc etc etc. all the buzzwords and more.

also ,if you start using it for anything other than command line data manipulation, you'll probably come across a few good frameworks that will help you along the way

for example, if you apply java to the web you'll probably want to check out spring mvc, struts, or other such frameworks

and after ALL that, you'll be able to pick up pretty quickly decent web mvc frameworks in languages such as php (eg: zend, codeignitor, php cake, etc) or somesuch...

Posted: 15 Apr 2010, 09:43
by markfiend
Or write your own framework.

Once you get the discipline of doing proper OOP in PHP it gets a lot easier. I've developed a nice little library of code (admittedly I'm always improving it) which I reuse time and again.

Posted: 15 Apr 2010, 15:32
by James Blast
Get ye tae Geeks Corner! ;D

week 2 of peecee ♡sink :|

Posted: 15 Apr 2010, 18:52
by Big Si
Thanks, Ladz! :notworthy:

Posted: 15 Apr 2010, 19:00
by James Blast
no more Pete, no more T-O-N

I'm being selfish 'cause I allas thought they'd play Glasgow one more time :|

Posted: 15 Apr 2010, 19:34
by MadameButterfly
James Blast wrote:no more Pete, no more T-O-N

I'm being selfish 'cause I allas thought they'd play Glasgow one more time :|
You can be selfish! *hugs* honey, it's a sad day! Loving your avatar and signature my dear... he will smile down later.

Posted: 15 Apr 2010, 20:37
by James Blast
I'm really knocked sideways Debs, just last week I started on a T-O-Nfest and now it's done :cry:

Posted: 15 Apr 2010, 21:32
by MadameButterfly
James Blast wrote:I'm really knocked sideways Debs, just last week I started on a T-O-Nfest and now it's done :cry:
I feel your pain. Sideways knocked is the worse cause it comes as a shock out of the blue. Yet we know we find the time to be sad but have to carry on tomorrow. *holds your heart in my hands*

Posted: 15 Apr 2010, 22:08
by weebleswobble
I remember being blown away (excuse the pun) when Kurt Cobain killed himself. It's hard when your heroes leave too early, be it ill health or otherwise.

I saw Don McLean on telly tonight, he looked f**king dead :innocent:

Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 18:35
by christophe
work.
anyone here ever had that daydream where you started to stab everyone in the department?

Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 18:50
by James Blast
nope, rampage with a baseball bat ;D

Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 19:09
by christophe
my weapon of choice would be a nailgun, I have plenty of them over there :twisted:

reorganisations, my back is killing me after I have been given a new 'teammate' :urff: whenever he is helping it seems my side of the load is getting 10 times that heavy :roll:

Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 20:40
by Erudite
My inability to get the rest of my team up to speed with the new control system we are now using at work.
Signs are I've underestimated my workload and quality help is in limited supply.
Heroic measures will be called for in the next couple of months if I wish to avoid looking a complete tit.

Ambition, truly you are a cruel mistress. :lol:

Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 21:51
by James Blast
you are a Baisturt Boss, Don

FACT!

Posted: 20 Apr 2010, 22:02
by Erudite
James Blast wrote:you are a Baisturt Boss, Don

FACT!
I prefer to think of myself as firm but fair. :P

Posted: 21 Apr 2010, 19:46
by LouLou
i'm marking assignments and i can't believe the crap i'm reading. the pesky critters obviously haven't even been arsed to read the assignment instructions, let alone the relevant sections in their coursebook and the documents i posted on the course website. needless to say, all the stuff we talked about in class have gone in one ear and out the other :x

someone's doing something wrong. and i'm beginning to think it's me :? :(

Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 14:42
by Pista
farking Air Berlin canceled the Vienna- Berlin flight I was on tomorrow.

Have to drive there now. :|

Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 18:32
by timsinister
Can't rustle up the ambition to proceed with this damn essay on quangos in British government. :roll:

Also damn sick of my facebook/twitter/livejournal being swamped with Sh*tby posts. :|

Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 18:34
by James Blast
I used to work for a quango, not best job I ever had but up there

Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 18:36
by timsinister
I've worked for The Man a few times, can't really complain.

Writing about it, on the other hand, is an almighty fook-around.

Posted: 22 Apr 2010, 19:23
by EvilBastard
James Blast wrote:I used to work for a quango, not best job I ever had but up there
Know what you mean - having worked for any number of mythical beasts I would agree that they make lousy bosses.

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 16:19
by weebleswobble
My team leader sent my manager a childish, rude and quite incorrect email about me.


Silly moo sent it to me by mistake. :lol:

I reply back to both of them stating the accusation was incorrect and that is no way to talk about a fellow member of staff.

I speak to manager, who says the team leader states it was a comment about something else (as if the something else was alright to comment on).

I refute this as the complete lie it is and refuse to accept an apology from her based on a lie.

We go back in the office only to find she has vanished and therefore unable to provide this 'apology'.

I leave early and go and pick up my boy from school. 8)

Meeting workmate for bevvy'n'bitch in an hour.

What a f**king Day.. :?

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 16:26
by James Blast
:urff:

I take it you're not in a union?

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 16:58
by Quiff Boy
look at it this way: you caught them out slagging you off, and you fronted up to them.

trust me, they'll be the one that feels embarrassed and they will be the one that is worried what you'll say next time you see them. they're the one that looks foolish ;)

Posted: 23 Apr 2010, 20:15
by weebleswobble
James I'm not but I'm not prepared to let this lie. iI know you've had your own s**t and appreciate the concern.
Boss Totally, I have quite a lot of ammunition now. :innocent: