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Dodges Unlimited Inc. wrote:Anyway, I trust your 'in-law' is feeling Minty Fresh now? - Nearly time for Mint 7 'Gloria' too! - I hope it is even better than Felicia?!

Aye, I'm tempted by the Gloria RC for this computer...

I still like my old Mac though, I had it dual-booting with Xubuntu for a while but it kept fncking up the system clock and the screen resolution for some reason. Back to OSX now.

But never Microsoft

markfiend wrote:But never Microsoft

Anyhoo...

Can I go off on one again about evolution versus creation?

No. I won that fair and square and if you do I'll cry and then my god will smite you.

markfiend wrote:
Can I go off on one again about evolution versus creation?

You must be BORED?

markfiend wrote:

Dodges Unlimited Inc. wrote:Anyway, I trust your 'in-law' is feeling Minty Fresh now? - Nearly time for Mint 7 'Gloria' too! - I hope it is even better than Felicia?!

Aye, I'm tempted by the Gloria RC for this computer...

I still like my old Mac though, I had it dual-booting with Xubuntu for a while but it kept fncking up the system clock and the screen resolution for some reason. Back to OSX now.

But never Microsoft

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stufarq wrote:No. I won that fair and square and if you do I'll cry and then my god will smite you.

OK then

stufarq wrote:No. I won that fair and square and if you do I'll cry and then my god will smite you.

Your god and all the other gods can smite away- man made god not the other way round

Though why He's the West Ham manager, Man only knows then...

silentNate wrote:

stufarq wrote:No. I won that fair and square and if you do I'll cry and then my god will smite you.

Your god and all the other gods can smite away- man made god not the other way round

But then God ran amok and now we must tremble before Him or face His Almighty wrath.

I thought he was a loving God?

nodubmanshouts wrote:I thought he was a loving God?

If he is a loving god then why did he give us Rupert Murdoch?

Do people who believe in god (or gods) automatically believe in the devil btw? Is it a ying/yang thing where one cannot exist without the other?

Or do people who believe in a 'Devil' automatically believe in a 'God'?

Just playing the 'Devil's Advocate' ...

silentNate wrote: Do people who believe in god (or gods) automatically believe in the devil btw? Is it a ying/yang thing where one cannot exist without the other?

Depends how you read some of the Holy Books. In some, Satan (a translation of adversary),is mans prosecutor before God, and not remotely evil. Lucifer (bringer of light) was a term applied to a particularly ostentatious and proud king who lost his kingdom.
I think the Old Testament God, who was a decidedly nasty bit of work, was judged a bit too unsympathetic, so his bad points get transferred to a powerful opposite, the rebellious fallen angel, a story pinched from the old Sumerian religion.

DeWinter wrote:

silentNate wrote: Do people who believe in god (or gods) automatically believe in the devil btw? Is it a ying/yang thing where one cannot exist without the other?

Depends how you read some of the Holy Books. In some, Satan (a translation of adversary),is mans prosecutor before God, and not remotely evil. Lucifer (bringer of light) was a term applied to a particularly ostentatious and proud king who lost his kingdom.
I think the Old Testament God, who was a decidedly nasty bit of work, was judged a bit too unsympathetic, so his bad points get transferred to a powerful opposite, the rebellious fallen angel, a story pinched from the old Sumerian religion.

Yeah, I was reading about the role of Satan in the Torah earlier- which brought me back to Lilith and subservence of women in most religions

silentNate wrote: Yeah, I was reading about the role of Satan in the Torah earlier- which brought me back to Lilith and subservence of women in most religions

Lilith is even more interesting. By todays standards, she's almost the heroine of the story about her and Adam. Probably she was meant as a warning against standing up to your menfolk, or being sexually liberated, like many women in non-Judaic cultures were.

IIRC the story of Lilith has very little biblical support.

Just looking at the wikipedia entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lilith Very interesting

No, think the Lilith story is Apocrypha at best. Looking at that she's been pinched from earlier Sumerian mythology. Much like the rebel angel storyline of Semjaaza, and Tiamat/ Leviathan.

To be fair most of Judaic mythology (apart from the Caananite pantheon from which El and Yahweh, along with Asherah, Baal, and various other gods mentioned in the Old Testament originate) is very heavily influenced by Sumerian / Akkadian / Babylonian myth.

I'm not sure if this dates from the Babylonian exile (after all, the Levite priesthood would have been steeped in the mythology of their captors) or if it was a more general mythology across much of the ancient Middle-East.

markfiend wrote:To be fair most of Judaic mythology (apart from the Caananite pantheon from which El and Yahweh, along with Asherah, Baal, and various other gods mentioned in the Old Testament originate) is very heavily influenced by Sumerian / Akkadian / Babylonian myth.

I'm not sure if this dates from the Babylonian exile (after all, the Levite priesthood would have been steeped in the mythology of their captors) or if it was a more general mythology across much of the ancient Middle-East.

Clever clogs

When did the Fields of Nephilim appear then?

Sometime in the 80's

Genesis 6:4 wrote:There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

The Hebrew word the KJV translators gloss as "giants" is "Nephilim".

WeirdSinisterGhostly wrote:Clever clogs

I take that as a compliment

They're the reason for the Flood, if I remember correctly--along with Cain's descendants through Lamech.

On the subject of venting my spleen, I'll be doing so tonight, giving a lengthy paper on Tocqueville and Nietzsche to a local group. Probably lengthier than they want, to be perfectly honest.