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boudicca wrote:I heart Golden Brown, I'm off down to London to give him a wee cuddle!
I am, alas, not able to get to London to give Gordon Brown a wee cuddle. Perhaps you would be so kind to pass mine along - it takes the form of a really gorgeous kick in the bollocks.

Ta muchly 8)
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I most certainly will not.

Now... I wonder who will pop up. I know he's ruled himself out before, but I think Alan Johnson's the way to go. Hoping against hope that David Milliband won't get in. Something of the night there.
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Erudite wrote: Had to be done if they are to have any hope of forming a coalition with the Lib Dems.

On some level I actually feel a wee bit sorry for Brown - although not nearly enough to want to see him continue as PM.
It's hard not to feel for him a bit. It must be gutting to finally get the job you've always wanted and then find you're not up to it. Plus the man couldn't say or do anything right in some peoples eyes. My heart went out to him over that ridiculous business concerning the letter to the soldiers mother. Credit to the man for not having the most complete nervous breakdown.

But can Labour really usher in yet another P.M who has never stood for election on that basis? Especially having lost the popular vote and majority. Is there anything stopping Nick Clegg demanding the post of P.M himself in a Lib-Lab coalition, btw? I mean, if Labour don't want the Tories in so badly, and they don't have a leader at the moment..
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If the mad-as-f**k kilt-wearing calvinist had had half the sense he was born with, he would have stepped down as leader *before* the election, to avoid making it look like a popularity contest - which is exactly what it turned in to.

If he had done this it is far more likely that the LibDems would have got talking coalition (as, I suspect, would the ScotNats, LeekFiends, and Greens) weeks before the election and we would be closer to a functioning government.

Having already called off one election for fear he might get trounced, Brown hung on much longer than was decent - time to go. Let this be a lesson to anyone who might be considering time-sharing party leadership.
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DeWinter wrote:
Erudite wrote: Is there anything stopping Nick Clegg demanding the post of P.M himself in a Lib-Lab coalition, btw? I mean, if Labour don't want the Tories in so badly, and they don't have a leader at the moment..
I can't see anyone making that concession considering Lib Dem still came so much further behind in the vote. There's already talk of them having a disproportionate amount of power.
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Well it looks like we're fcuked, now.

Dream scenario... new government tries bring in hideous cuts, descending into Lib vs Tory acrimony as it does so. Most of the Tories are fuming over the concessions made to the Liberals on the voting system, and turn against the Bullingdon clique (if they haven't already). Everyone HATES George Osborne. Tories are rendered unelectable for the rest of my lifetime.

Yeah, I can live with that.
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boudicca wrote:Well it looks like we're fcuked, now.

Dream scenario... new government tries bring in hideous cuts, descending into Lib vs Tory acrimony as it does so. Most of the Tories are fuming over the concessions made to the Liberals on the voting system, and turn against the Bullingdon clique (if they haven't already). Everyone HATES George Osborne. Tories are rendered unelectable for the rest of my lifetime.

Yeah, I can live with that.
Nightmare scenario - Cameron bides his time for a year or two, lulls electorate into a false sense of security, calls general election, achieves majority and makes all of us bend over and take it. :(
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You miserable git! :P
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That haggis-humping tit is finally gone.
The Labour Party's stint in power lasted just a smidge longer than a certain German's and had similar results. Co-inky-dink? You be the judge...
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Erudite wrote:Nightmare scenario - Cameron bides his time for a year or two, lulls electorate into a false sense of security, calls general election, achieves majority and makes all of us bend over and take it. :(
Cameron becomes PM. Puts off any kind of decision on electoral reform until "after we're out of the economic mess". Sidelines the LibDems. Clegg leads a revolt, forms a clandestine pact with the new Labour leader (not the New Labour leader, incidentally), calls a No Confidence vote in the House, snap election combined with referendum on electoral reform, tories trounced, Lib/Lab Alliance in power, massive electoral reform producing German-style upper and lower elected Houses, peers kicked out and hunted with dogs through the royal parks, religious institutions dismantled and their premises given over to housing and training facilities for the unemployed and homeless, Richard Branson and Jim Dyson share casting vote, monarchy reformed to European model, Euro adopted, America shunned, Trident abandoned, Iraq withdrawn from, the Pope declared persona non grata, Israel censured for misbehaviour, two-state solution enshrined, Clegg takes credit for lasting peace in the middle east.

My money's on this happening by Christmas.
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EvilBastard wrote:
Erudite wrote:Nightmare scenario - Cameron bides his time for a year or two, lulls electorate into a false sense of security, calls general election, achieves majority and makes all of us bend over and take it. :(
Cameron becomes PM. Puts off any kind of decision on electoral reform until "after we're out of the economic mess". Sidelines the LibDems. Clegg leads a revolt, forms a clandestine pact with the new Labour leader (not the New Labour leader, incidentally), calls a No Confidence vote in the House, snap election combined with referendum on electoral reform, tories trounced, Lib/Lab Alliance in power, massive electoral reform producing German-style upper and lower elected Houses, peers kicked out and hunted with dogs through the royal parks, religious institutions dismantled and their premises given over to housing and training facilities for the unemployed and homeless, Richard Branson and Jim Dyson share casting vote, monarchy reformed to European model, Euro adopted, America shunned, Trident abandoned, Iraq withdrawn from, the Pope declared persona non grata, Israel censured for misbehaviour, two-state solution enshrined, Clegg takes credit for lasting peace in the middle east.

My money's on this happening by Christmas.
But which Christmas? :lol:
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i prophesy disaster.
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super. time to get the hounds back out of hiding then. watch out oiks!
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mh wrote:
EvilBastard wrote:My money's on this happening by Christmas.
But which Christmas? :lol:
Christmas 2011. Why? Because according to the Mayan calendar the world will end in 2012. I want to be watching as Nick Clegg steps up to the dispatch box to deliver his inaugural speech as PM...

"Madame Speaker, my right honourable friends. It is with a great sense of occassion that I stand here today as the first leader of a new form of British government, one that is truly representative of all the voices in this great nation of ours, and that promises to deliver great things. My coalition partners in the Leek Bothering and Haggis Hunting Parties, the bunny huggers, the socialists and the crypto-fascists, will work tirelessly to rebuild a society that has been riven by conflicts of class, wealth, colour, and creed. To this end I shall...

...has anyone noticed how dark it's got in here?"
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EvilBastard wrote:Clegg leads a revolt
Something about the idea of a "Red Clegg" having a Tory front bunch lined up against the wall appeals to me.
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Fashion - turn to the left

LibDems are fucked from now on
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Loving this notion that every Lib Dem voter is some sort of rabid anti-Tory. I think that if the Lib Dems use this opportunity wisely to demonstrate that they're grown-up to serve in government they may do rather better next time out whatever electoral system that ends up being under.
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you are daft
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good to see that you're still raising the standard of debate mr blast.
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RicheyJames wrote:good to see that you're still raising the standard of debate mr blast.
What else can you expect from a Mac user...? :innocent:
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ignoring the implied slander, I predict an huge swing to the left, the LibDems are fucked from now on
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fancy a fiver on that mr blast? i'll want paying in real money mind, not that funny-looking scotch stuff!
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James Blast wrote:ignoring the implied slander, I predict an huge swing to the left, the LibDems are fucked from now on
If the Tories swing to the left then they will occupy the middle-ground, which is exactly where the Lib Dems live. Cue a nice stable coalition.
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I have a feeling it will be a long time before I consider voting Liberal again :| I thought it might just be a brief jump to Labour for this election because I can't stand Clegg... but if the party are supporting this unholy union, they plummet in my estimation.
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see above Grumpy Auld Dad!

a 'Harold Melvin' in your English Pounds, yer on FUD!
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