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Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 20:36
by robertzombie
Rise891 wrote:Anybody know what I just bought?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-SISTERS-OF- ... true&rt=nc
Keep us informed.

Posted: 19 Jun 2015, 21:12
by Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
Interesting. I just read this http://www.musikvergnuegen.com/about.php and still have no idea what Musikvergnuegen would need VT for. If they were hawking TSOM around advertisers, they would presumably have the band's permission ??

Posted: 20 Jun 2015, 11:05
by paul

Posted: 26 Jun 2015, 06:13
by Rise891
The Vision Thing cd arrived today and I still have no idea what it is. One last call for help or info on it?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/THE-SISTERS-OF- ... true&rt=nc

Posted: 26 Jun 2015, 07:28
by robertzombie
What's on it?

Are you able to post the EAC Peak values (http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/) or Dynamic Range values (http://dr.loudness-war.info/downloads/DR-Meter-1_4a.zip) so that we can identify if it's a unique mastering?

Posted: 26 Jun 2015, 08:02
by Rise891
I have no idea what any of that means honestly. The times do appear to be a tad different. It's for sure the 8 track version.

Posted: 26 Jun 2015, 12:18
by robertzombie
Rise891 wrote:I have no idea what any of that means honestly. The times do appear to be a tad different. It's for sure the 8 track version.
Well, the original German and USA CDs contain different masterings of the tracks. The German is a little flatter, whilst the American has more bass. The German also has the track flags for Ribbons and Detonation Boulevard in the wrong place so DB starts with the end of Ribbons - the American disc doesn't suffer from this problem.

It would be interesting to know if the CD you've bought is identical to either of the above, or whether it is unique (i.e. a third mastering). You can determine that by scanning the disc's peak and/or dynamic range values and comparing them to the other two releases. Do you know what year it was pressed?

Posted: 26 Jun 2015, 22:06
by jost 7
Check musikvergnuegen.com - their own music for movies/commercials, likely to being presented to customers. Us original pressing with different label?

Posted: 27 Jun 2015, 12:03
by paint it black
Dated Aug 2001?

Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 16:40
by Victim of Circumstance
Sole to the kevster for US$175.50

Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 19:15
by Rise891
Is there a certain track I can put online to give people an idea what version it is?

Posted: 29 Jun 2015, 21:37
by paint it black
Rise891 wrote:Is there a certain track I can put online to give people an idea what version it is?
Vision thing

Posted: 30 Jun 2015, 07:33
by robertzombie
Rise891 wrote:Is there a certain track I can put online to give people an idea what version it is?
Any song should be enough to decipher which mastering it is (preferably in FLAC/ALAC format). Does Detonation Boulevard start correctly?

Posted: 30 Jun 2015, 07:40
by Rise891
robertzombie wrote:
Rise891 wrote:Is there a certain track I can put online to give people an idea what version it is?
Any song should be enough to decipher which mastering it is (preferably in FLAC/ALAC format). Does Detonation Boulevard start correctly?
What if I am using Itunes? What import format should I use?

Posted: 30 Jun 2015, 10:14
by robertzombie
Rise891 wrote:
robertzombie wrote:
Rise891 wrote:Is there a certain track I can put online to give people an idea what version it is?
Any song should be enough to decipher which mastering it is (preferably in FLAC/ALAC format). Does Detonation Boulevard start correctly?
What if I am using Itunes? What import format should I use?
Apple Lossless Audio Codec (ALAC)

Posted: 01 Jul 2015, 22:42
by Rise891
This should be it. If not please let me know. Very curious for a verdict, this is really puzzling me. I wounder if they were shopping Vision Thing to be on a soundtrack.

https://mega.co.nz/#!ZwQmlTQD!ZqbD82ybj ... BvQ9gB2UBo

Posted: 05 Jul 2015, 21:22
by Being645
Expensive, but rare and definitely a dream ...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sisters-Of-Me ... 41991a7c6d

Posted: 05 Jul 2015, 21:37
by Victim of Circumstance
I have that one, although I don't smoke :D

Posted: 06 Jul 2015, 09:46
by robertzombie
Rise891 wrote:This should be it. If not please let me know. Very curious for a verdict, this is really puzzling me. I wounder if they were shopping Vision Thing to be on a soundtrack.

https://mega.co.nz/#!ZwQmlTQD!ZqbD82ybj ... BvQ9gB2UBo
Thanks, I'll take a listen tonight.

Posted: 13 Jul 2015, 17:58
by robertzombie
It appears to be identical to the USA mastering:

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DR Peak RMS Filename
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DR13 over -14.48 dB 01 Vision Thing 1990 DE.wav
DR12 -0.24 dB -13.33 dB 01 Vision Thing 1990 USA.wav
DR12 -0.24 dB -13.33 dB 01 Vision Thing 2001 musikvergnuegen.wav
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Posted: 25 Jul 2015, 20:12
by paul
rare Argentina promo with Spanish titles on the back:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sisters-Of-Merc ... 2354d23197

Posted: 27 Jul 2015, 20:04
by darcraver
paul wrote:rare Argentina promo with Spanish titles on the back:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Sisters-Of-Merc ... 2354d23197
I've still got the "regular" Argentina version (without promo stamps) for sale. I actually thought the "regular" version was rarer? Maybe not? Song titles are also in Spanish.

Posted: 03 Sep 2015, 14:16
by Joy

Posted: 03 Sep 2015, 22:05
by Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
1984 ? I think not.

Posted: 04 Sep 2015, 09:47
by Joy
Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:
1984 ? I think not.
I think it was released 88/89...