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Posted: 03 Jun 2014, 10:31
by robertzombie
Just to play devil's advocate: Is it right to call the Japanese mixes inferior? Certainly different, but are they actually lower in rank? The WEA Mixes bootleg reveals that the Japanese mixes were produced alongside the "normal" mixes that ended up at R/S Alsdorf, and for many listeners the Japanese mixes are the standard. Who's to say these mixes weren't preferred by the band? One could postulate that Eldritch preferred them as they form the base of his 1992 remaster. I'm not sure I buy the story of the missing stereo masters, the record was put out in so many territories that a safety tape could've been sourced from somewhere if it had been needed.
taylor wrote:
Unfortunately, I don't have the general release Elektra vinyl to compare to the promo. Did they fix the mix of Walk Away or did the American market always have this different mix?
Posted: 03 Jun 2014, 13:29
by taylor
Posted: 03 Jun 2014, 14:56
by robertzombie
Thanks taylor, are they yours?
I had a quick listen to the WEA Mixes bootleg on the way to work. The Walk Away "different mix" is definitely in there somewhere, I will spend some time comparing.
Posted: 03 Jun 2014, 17:01
by jost 7
Is anyone able to share a glitch-free version of these mixes? That would be fantastic.
(Sorry for the forum cross over mix-up)
Posted: 03 Jun 2014, 22:57
by Victim of Circumstance
Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 07:46
by robertzombie
taylor wrote:
The F&L&A Elektra promo has SRC (Speciality Records Corporation) in the deadwax. So I'm going to assume that the version of Walk Away on the promo is the same as this "dif mix" test pressing. I had another listen to the WEA Mixes, and, to me, it sounds like a more developed version of the Eldritch Mix.
Now to find out whether it was corrected for this:
http://www.discogs.com/Sisters-Of-Mercy ... ase/313907 . Anyone got the matrix numbers?
Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 11:54
by paint it black
have you listened to both versions of the video? I've never been anal enough to pick up on all of this
Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 12:09
by paint it black
my elektra promo (complete with press release) to your link, has S828621 in gold lettering above the promo blurb (also in gold lettering)
record is from elektra asylum nonesuch records - STE60504-A-1 & B-1 - walk away is 3.23
Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 14:43
by robertzombie
Unfortunately mine didn't include the press release. According to a user on the Steve Hoffman music forum, the general Tennessee Elektra vinyl has the correct mix, so it presumably has a different matrix number (on side a at least).
The Elektra promo has the matrix numbers quoted by PiB, it also has the Masterdisk stamp, SRC logo, and HW's initials in the deadwax
Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 14:44
by robertzombie
paint it black wrote:have you listened to both versions of the video? I've never been anal enough to pick up on all of this
Not yet, it's on my to do list. I'm surprised at the latter half of your sentence given your interest in collecting!
Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 14:51
by robertzombie
From memory, the two videos have identical audio but different visuals. I will check though.
Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 17:00
by paint it black
collecting is like making love to a beautiful woman. the thrill of the chase, getting her home, opening her up, the unused smell, playing with her a few times and on to the next one
the only version i can easily spot a difference with is the distance mix
Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 20:23
by demolitionsisters
taylor wrote:
Does anyone have these mixes? If so, can they share them?
Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 22:52
by panzerfaust
youll find them somwehere around the sharing sections.
and that picture, omg. taylor = demigod.
Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 22:52
by panzerfaust
next time hes gonna post a photo of a videotape with the NEwcastle 85 gig
Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 23:10
by Being645
panzerfaust wrote:next time hes gonna post a photo of a videotape with the NEwcastle 85 gig
Oh yes, please ... and share it with you and me and everybody ...
...
on the occasion of which, you will - hopefully - faint with envy and keep your nasty mouth shut for a moment, at least ...
...
Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 23:15
by Victim of Circumstance
robertzombie wrote:taylor wrote:
The F&L&A Elektra promo has SRC (Speciality Records Corporation) in the deadwax. So I'm going to assume that the version of Walk Away on the promo is the same as this "dif mix" test pressing.
Posted: 04 Jun 2014, 23:23
by Victim of Circumstance
robertzombie wrote:taylor wrote:
The F&L&A Elektra promo has SRC (Speciality Records Corporation) in the deadwax. So I'm going to assume that the version of Walk Away on the promo is the same as this "dif mix" test pressing.
Most likely, but be aware, that there are at least 2 test pressings (there may be a 3rd one, but I'm not sure if it's genuine or a fake) of Walk Away from Speciality Records. My copy features the original US lp version, meaning that in the TITLE line, the words "Dif. Mix" are missing
Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 19:07
by panzerfaust
Being645 wrote:panzerfaust wrote:next time hes gonna post a photo of a videotape with the NEwcastle 85 gig
Oh yes, please ... and share it with you and me and everybody ... ;D ...
on the occasion of which, you will - hopefully - faint with envy and keep your nasty mouth shut for a moment, at least ... :P :lol: ...
the point of your post being?
(your implication of being envious is based on water, sigh, as that videotape exists)
(i admire taylor and all true collectors, period.)
Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 19:22
by taylor
the above its the one side
this is the 2 side
Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 21:13
by Being645
panzerfaust wrote:next time hes gonna post a photo of a videotape with the NEwcastle 85 gig
the point of your post being?
@taylor ....
...
So, it's high time for a page in the SistersWiki.
One question: Side B has indeed Black Planet and is not blank?
Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 22:29
by taylor
indeed Black Planet
Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 23:08
by robertzombie
So does the Walk Away "dif mix" appear on the WA/BP promo as well? Or just the test pressing and F&L&A Elektra promo?
Posted: 05 Jun 2014, 23:26
by Being645
taylor wrote:indeed Black Planet
... the LP version of it ...
...
http://sisterswiki.org/Walk_Away_12%22_ ... ressing%29
as to Walk Away, though ... on the Elektra Promo label is explicitly written: LP VERSION ...
...
Posted: 06 Jun 2014, 00:07
by mh
