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markfiend wrote:

Mrs RicheyJames wrote:I hope these BNP fuckwits realise this.

Me too. IIUC there was an "incident" at a Mosque in Armley earlier this week; I wouldn't be surprised if the big one in Leeds 6 goes up this weekend. I saw some vaguely skinhead-looking people filling up a large container with diesel last night; that gave me cause for concern. Does diesel work as well as petrol in petrol bombs does anyone know?

I'm aware that I might be being paranoid, but I'm getting jumpy. The cordoned off suspected "bomb factory" on Alexandra Grove is less than a mile from my house and I pass it every day on the way to/from work.

hot summers are usually riot time in bradford too

markfiend wrote:

Mrs RicheyJames wrote:I hope these BNP fuckwits realise this.

Me too. IIUC there was an "incident" at a Mosque in Armley earlier this week; I wouldn't be surprised if the big one in Leeds 6 goes up this weekend. I saw some vaguely skinhead-looking people filling up a large container with diesel last night; that gave me cause for concern. Does diesel work as well as petrol in petrol bombs does anyone know?

I'm aware that I might be being paranoid, but I'm getting jumpy. The cordoned off suspected "bomb factory" on Alexandra Grove is less than a mile from my house and I pass it every day on the way to/from work.

diesel don't burn like petrol.

Just read this about
"Plans by an alliance of rightwing extremists and football hooligans to exact "revenge" on Muslims after last week's bomb attacks are being monitored by police. "

The only positive thing in there is that the BNP didn't manage to get a council seat depsite trying to whip things up on an election brochure with a picture of the bus.

http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_Sto ... 33,00.html

Worrying times.

I'll be busy at work soon then!!

markfiend wrote: The cordoned off suspected "bomb factory" on Alexandra Grove is less than a mile from my house and I pass it every day on the way to/from work.

there's an easy solution to that mark - move! you're not a student anymore so why are you still living in bloody burley?

Moving house would entail expenses which would in turn entail me not being able to sustain the lifestyle to which I have become accustomed.

RicheyJames wrote:

eastmidswhizzkid wrote:and these are not my theories.if you remember,we were discussing items posted elsewhere.

really? was this not you then:

eastmidswhizzkid wrote:apart from taking the heat off of g.w.bush's (lack of) enviromental commitments at the g8 -not to mention all the lovely new freedom-restricting laws that will ensue.id cards anybody?- would we (london) have still got the olympics if the bombing had happened two days before?i think not.
and another thing- the general election wasnt so long ago.if the intent was the same as is assumed with regard to madrid (ie influencing the electorate against involvement in iraq) why not then?

i didn't see anyone else making those particular points?

<yawns> ...oh well if you insist:
all of these points (except maybe the one about the olympics,admittedly that was suggested by a friend of my missus') are amongst the many related articles on the net;doubtless these are on the whole unread by yourself.paraphrasing them makes them no more my creations than the direct quoting of another by james blast makes that his creation.

as for being baseless,the fact is that any terror action against UK pr its allies is used to bring in tougher laws with less parlimentary resistance than they may otherwise have had.you yourself share my concern over id cards,the main stated government reason being as an anti-terrorism measure.even though the london bombers were british citizens (and would presumably have been carrying id cards were that legislation in place) do you think that will stop the gov't expediting the proposal in the name of security?
as for bush and the enviroment,friends of the earth and other "green" pressure groups have already condemned the lack of us cmmitment at the g8;saying that "there is unlikely to be any change in american enviromental practice whilst bush is president."

these things do not deflect from "real problems".they are simply other cosiderations.

finally,i have no problem with people disagreeing with me -though of course it is up to them to then convince me of their point of view,if they wish me to adopt it.
i don't percieve it as foolish to consider less "obvious" factors;nor do i condemn those who choose to ignore them.however,your intolerance of others debating things with which you do not agree leads me to assume you have a blinkered view.

I'm staying well out of this

James Blast wrote:I'm staying well out of this

tedious,isn't it?
once again,if everyones sick of it then i'll shut up.

Naught wrong with a healthy discussion, methinks...

As long as it does not get too heated, whatwith all the hot air nowadays already

When we stop debating and discussing these events, it only becomes worse

IZ.

I'm more than happy for the pair of you to slug it out, I can't compete and I was only making a what I thought was humorous aside, seconds out...

Izzy HaveMercy wrote:Naught wrong with a healthy discussion, methinks...

As long as it does not get too heated, whatwith all the hot air nowadays already

When we stop debating and discussing these events, it only becomes worse

IZ.

all fair points, Iz.

James Blast wrote: I was only making what i thought was a humorous aside

sorry mr blast (again!).
but i value my participation here at HL(and therefore other HLers) enough to double-check (and sometimes actually care) whether a point is being overly laboured.

James Blast wrote:seconds out...

now, don't start a debate on that...

Can I do my Vera Lynn joke yet?

only if it doesn't involve the word meat