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Posted: 15 May 2006, 16:48
by Badlander
czuczu wrote:Numb/Stranger at Loreley was one of those moments when people waving lighters actually made sense! It's a perfect cover - try listening to the original now, the vocals just don't work...
The ultimate version of CN is on the Delicate sound of thunder live album. The guitar solo is just amazing and Dave Gilmour's vocals just beat the crap out of Roger Waters, who may be a great composer and lyricist but is also quite a poor musician and a very uncharismatic frontman.
IMHO this is CN, not the album version, not the movie version.
And the Girl' version doesn't add much to the picture. The bright move was to throw SKOS in the mix.

Posted: 15 May 2006, 17:48
by James Blast
Quiff Boy wrote:@ ramone: i never realised thats where the name "speed kings" came from! nice one :notworthy:
I think it's more likely to have come from Hawkwind, they had a song called 'Kings of Speed' the b-side of which was 'Motorhead' ;D
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Posted: 15 May 2006, 17:55
by RobF
Nope, Von has commented that the only songs to get him on the dancefloor when bladdered are Rock 'n' roll Pt2 and The Purp's Speedking.

Quite what that event would resemble eludes me.

Posted: 15 May 2006, 18:05
by James Blast
I stand corrected Rob, it was just me putting two and two together and getting five :oops:

interesting aside:
I tried to educate the
MacHeartlanders in the Forres Taxi enroute to the recent Leeds gig with the remastered Deep Purple in Rock, I was humilated and chastised for my choice of music :cry:

Posted: 15 May 2006, 18:11
by RobF
James Blast wrote:I stand corrected Rob, it was just me putting two and two together and getting five :oops:

interesting aside:
I tried to educate the
MacHeartlanders in the Forres Taxi enroute to the recent Leeds gig with the remastered Deep Purple in Rock, I was humilated and chastised for my choice of music :cry:
Next time, turn the bastard up a notch and deal out some taste-inducing slaps! ;D

Chastised for the Purp' :!:

Posted: 15 May 2006, 18:33
by James Blast
RobF wrote:
James Blast wrote:I stand corrected Rob, it was just me putting two and two together and getting five :oops:

interesting aside:
I tried to educate the
MacHeartlanders in the Forres Taxi enroute to the recent Leeds gig with the remastered Deep Purple in Rock, I was humilated and chastised for my choice of music :cry:
Next time, turn the bastard up a notch and deal out some taste-inducing slaps! ;D

Chastised for the Purp' :!:
can I quote you on that? :lol:

Posted: 15 May 2006, 18:48
by Planet Dave
RobF wrote:Von mentioned a liking for REM as far back as 92 as far as I remember, some Swedish TV interview and MTV's 120 minutes, describing them as: "Consistently intelligent, which is refreshing" and also commenting that it was very difficult to persuade record company marketing departments that: "...I am Michael Stipe, not Ozzy Osbourne".

The fact that that some of you are surprised, is, erm, surprising.
Nail well and truly bludgeoned on head, Mr Fakes. :notworthy:

In 1986, I couldn't differentiate between The Sisters, REM or Metallica. Still can't, other than one of the singers seems to have transmogrified into a right old pussy. :?

Posted: 16 May 2006, 03:45
by Silver_Owl
Planet Dave wrote: transmogrified
What a delightful word that is Dave. Nice one.
:lol:

Posted: 16 May 2006, 04:17
by 8.5
Badlander wrote:
czuczu wrote:Numb/Stranger at Loreley was one of those moments when people waving lighters actually made sense! It's a perfect cover - try listening to the original now, the vocals just don't work...
The ultimate version of CN is on the Delicate sound of thunder live album. The guitar solo is just amazing and Dave Gilmour's vocals just beat the crap out of Roger Waters, who may be a great composer and lyricist but is also quite a poor musician and a very uncharismatic frontman.
IMHO this is CN, not the album version, not the movie version.
And the Girl' version doesn't add much to the picture. The bright move was to throw SKOS in the mix.
I used to have that on a mixtape but I put "Burn" over it, and just left the rest of the space blank. Actually, I think I might have put the Dead Kennedy's "Buzzbomb from Pasadena" on the space, too. I guess insofar as expressing the world-weary, prematurely aged and dead to the world concepts of the song, Gilmour's more effective at expressing that than Roger Waters. But when it comes to not causing listeners pain (in the ear area, that would be), I think Waters is miles ahead of Gilmour. Which isn't really that far up on the scale, honestly.

Of course, just my opinion.

Posted: 16 May 2006, 11:10
by Quiff Boy
Hom_Corleone wrote:
Planet Dave wrote: transmogrified
What a delightful word that is Dave. Nice one.
:lol:
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;D

Posted: 16 May 2006, 16:22
by 6FeetOver
I'm quite fond of really old (i.e., circa approximately 1983, or thereabouts) REM. Pffffft.

Posted: 16 May 2006, 18:00
by Jaimie1980
REM are good at what they do but surely Sisters are a bit more inventive.

Posted: 16 May 2006, 19:50
by 9while9
Driven wrote:REM are good at what they do but surely Sisters are a bit more inventive.
A BIT more inventive...
to say the least!


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Just my opinion but I find REM G-A-Y...
And I mean Liberace gay...

Posted: 16 May 2006, 20:12
by aims
And I find people who fail to engage brain before keyboard to be C-N-U-Ts.

And I don't mean King Cnut...:evil:

Posted: 16 May 2006, 20:19
by 9while9
Motz wrote:And I find people who fail to engage brain before keyboard to be C-N-U-Ts.

And I don't mean King Cnut...:evil:
Arn't we an angry little boy.... :roll:

I did not know you where a Liberace fan
I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings... :D

Posted: 16 May 2006, 20:24
by Dark
*psst* No, not the Liberace one, the other one..

Posted: 16 May 2006, 20:32
by 9while9
Dark wrote:*psst* No, not the Liberace one, the other one..
Oh silly me, guess I'm just simple... :lol:

Just becuase I think REM is GAY doesn't mean Mr. Motz shouldn't
love and admire and or worship them...

As I stated in my original post it's just my lonely opinion. :roll:
Hell I even enjoyed a song or 2 by them, but that's all I can
stands and I can't stands no more.... :|

Posted: 16 May 2006, 20:38
by davedecay
REM played on the bill at the first concert I saw.

other bands on the bill: Madness, Joan Jett, The Police.
August 1983, Philadelphia. :D

Posted: 16 May 2006, 20:45
by aims
9while9 wrote:
Dark wrote:*psst* No, not the Liberace one, the other one..
Oh silly me, guess I'm just simple... :lol:

Just becuase I think REM is GAY doesn't mean Mr. Motz shouldn't
love and admire and or worship them...
*psst* No, not REM one, the other one. :roll:

You're entitled to your opinion on each and every artist under the Sun.

However, I doubt anyone would be best pleased if I called The Sisters n!ggers or slagged off The Mish because they're GINGER. :urff:

I'd rather not get into a debate about it, just a heads up for next time, mmkay? We are a broad church and the chances are, if you get bitchy about a particular sensitive characteristic, one in our number will be rubbed the wrong way :von:

Posted: 16 May 2006, 20:52
by 9while9
Motz wrote:
9while9 wrote:
Dark wrote:*psst* No, not the Liberace one, the other one..
Oh silly me, guess I'm just simple... :lol:

Just becuase I think REM is GAY doesn't mean Mr. Motz shouldn't
love and admire and or worship them...
*psst* No, not REM one, the other one. :roll:

You're entitled to your opinion on each and every artist under the Sun.

However, I doubt anyone would be best pleased if I called The Sisters n!ggers or slagged off The Mish because they're GINGER. :urff:
Same diff...no need to be at odds.
I respect your right to like the other one (gag) too. :eek:

The Mish GINGER thing is funny as HELL!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Filthy gingers....
:lol: :lol:

Really though I didn't mean to hurt your feelings then... ;D

Posted: 16 May 2006, 21:06
by James Blast
I predict a riot

Posted: 16 May 2006, 21:06
by mh
Hell, Von's been saying since '90 that he thought Stipe was an excellent lyricist.

Posted: 16 May 2006, 21:07
by aims
Actually, what I was saying was that being gay I take offense, or rather have a sense of frustration at your choice of adjective - not that I'm a fan of either of the two artists mentioned. I don't want to make a big deal of it, but abuse of the word irks me horribly.

Now back on topic, bitte.

Posted: 17 May 2006, 03:27
by weebleswobble
Motz wrote: We are a broad church and the chances are, if you get bitchy about a particular sensitive characteristic, one in our number will be rubbed the wrong way :von:
Yes indeed
9while9 wrote:
The Mish GINGER thing is funny as HELL!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Filthy gingers....
:lol: :lol:
Square go to all who mock the Chosen People

:wink:

...on topic I think REM have been a spent force for some time but at least they have had output....

Posted: 18 May 2006, 17:26
by 6FeetOver
@ 9while9: Stipe's semi-recent "revelation" is irrelevant.