Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 12:35
The Reptile House is awesome. As I keep telling anyone who'd care to listen, it's my official Fav Sisters Moment.
And I was only 10...
And I was only 10...
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Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 13:57
The Reptile House tracks are amongst TSOM's finest work IMHO.
Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 16:12
That's the one. I agree, there's nothing wrong with that, but hearing one always makes me hear the other one in my head at the same time, which is an interesting experience...Badlander wrote:You're refering to how the bass line kind of sounds like Ziggy's guitar part ?MrChris wrote:Have we done the bit yet about how Fix sounds just like Ziggy Stardust, but slowed down?
Well maybe but only slightly I'd say. That wouldn't be a huge surprise anyway since Von is, quite understandably, a major Bowie fan.
Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 20:48
Syberberg wrote:When Von describes himself as "Kierkegaard meets Elvis", do you have any idea what he means by that? Probably not, so here's a little hint:Ramone wrote:Some people just have waaaaay too much time on their hands! Get over yourselves, it's just a piece of round black plastic ! I find that some folk wish to read alot more into people's lyrics and the structure of songs than is actually good for them. At the end of the day ( avoiding cliches like the plague), it's just a bunch of songs, that were cobbled together back in 1983, nothing more - nothing less. And if deep down you truly believe that it 'changed' your life, then you really need some sort of reality check, it's not too late.Life's too short . Rant over.
Kierkegaard (1813 - 1855), a Danish philosopher, sought to provide a service for his own contemporaries similar to that which Socrates provided for his fellow Greeks. He used irony, parody, satire, humor, and deconstructive techniques in order to make conventionally accepted forms of knowledge and value untenable. He was a gadfly — constantly irritating his contemporaries with discomforting thoughts. He was also a midwife — assisting at the birth of individual subjectivity by forcing his contemporaries to think for themselves. His art of communication became "the art of taking away" since he thought his audience suffered from too much knowledge rather than too little. (In this case things seem to be pretty much reversed, or perhaps one could substitute "information" for "knowledge").
The Sisters of Mercy; philosophy you can dance to.
The most sensible response, thank you sir. Not enough study of the Dane goes on in these parts.
Anyone bankrupted by a love of fine stationary gets my vote.
De Omnibus Dubitandum Est.
And yes, I am a twit
Posted: 19 Jun 2006, 21:51
You may think that's pretencious bollocks but try this then http://echoes.devin.com/triad.html
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 16:16
I held this very E.P. in my hands today... but Resurrection Records can f**k off, ain't paying eight quid for it 
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 17:03
I've got one thing to say: The Reptile House EP is the finest collection of songs Eldritch has ever put out.
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 17:10
Eight quid, that's a veritable bargain for the Reptile House e.p.robertzombie wrote:I held this very E.P. in my hands today... but Resurrection Records can f**k off, ain't paying eight quid for it
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 17:22
Not really. I think I got mine for a fiver.
If it's the first edition with lyric sheet, perhaps £7-8 is a good price, yes.
If it's the first edition with lyric sheet, perhaps £7-8 is a good price, yes.
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 17:53
I've no idea how much it's worth now. Bought mine new for about £3:50 from Probe in Liverpool many moons ago.
I would pay £8:00 for it now if I was to replace though
I would pay £8:00 for it now if I was to replace though
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 18:17
On the mainland you usually find it at about 15€ (£10).
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 18:54
Well I'll be back in Camden tomorrow so I might pick it up now you've said that!
Posted: 20 Jun 2006, 19:42
The main difference being that Kierkegaard and Eldritch are right, and therefore allowed to be pretentious, and those people are wrong, entertaining, but deluded, and erm, a bit thick. (O.K. Thick-sounding, I was just being a twit, again)wild bill buttock wrote:You may think that's pretencious bollocks but try this then http://echoes.devin.com/triad.html
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 01:44
The Sisters are a band influenced mainly by T. S. Eliot, left-libertarian politics and the great works of Western philosophy, and whose serious fans are of the same calibre. The Fields of the Nephilim are a band influenced mainly by slasher movies, H. P. Lovecraft and badly assimilated "chaos magick" theories, and whose serious fans are of the same calibre. The Sisters are culture. The Neph are what passes for culture among over-educated teenagers who think they're much cooler than they actually are.RobF wrote:The main difference being that Kierkegaard and Eldritch are right, and therefore allowed to be pretentious, and those people are wrong, entertaining, but deluded, and erm, a bit thick. (O.K. Thick-sounding, I was just being a tw*t, again)wild bill buttock wrote:You may think that's pretencious bollocks but try this then http://echoes.devin.com/triad.html
I actually really like a couple of Neph albums, but that's irrelevant to the current discussion.
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 05:39
Being a tw*t's just in yer Nietzsche, innit? Or are ya just a crotchety ald bugger who wishes he was Jung again?RobF wrote:
The main difference being that Kierkegaard and Eldritch are right, and therefore allowed to be pretentious, and those people are wrong, entertaining, but deluded, and erm, a bit thick. (O.K. Thick-sounding, I was just being a tw*t, again)
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 08:56
What's wrong with horror movies ? What's wrong with Lovecraft ?H. Blackrose wrote:The Sisters are a band influenced mainly by T. S. Eliot, left-libertarian politics and the great works of Western philosophy, and whose serious fans are of the same calibre. The Fields of the Nephilim are a band influenced mainly by slasher movies, H. P. Lovecraft and badly assimilated "chaos magick" theories, and whose serious fans are of the same calibre. The Sisters are culture. The Neph are what passes for culture among over-educated teenagers who think they're much cooler than they actually are.
I actually really like a couple of Neph albums, but that's irrelevant to the current discussion.
You should try to sound a little less pretentious for your own good.
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 12:27
The Nephilim are mythology. The Sisters are Realpolitik.
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 12:36
The Ghosties are a warm afternoon with a distorted guitar and a gorgeous hairstyle.
The Sisters are a wet autumn night with some yellow lights, baldness and sideburns.
The Sisters are a wet autumn night with some yellow lights, baldness and sideburns.
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 13:17
I have no idea why you consider the Sisters left-libertarian, Mr Blackrose. That's a very specific, and quite problematic, political-philosophical position, and if I recall correctly the lyrics to Kiss the Carpet make very little reference to issues of self-ownership, wage slavery and global resource distribution.
I'm also far from sure that the Sisters are a band 'mainly' influenced by old T.S. Eliot, aside from the a few quotations / references plus Eldritch's adoption of the general flood=salvation motif at various points in the 1980s. The identification of Eldritch as some kind of Eliot acolyte is a huge exaggeration, especially given the massive difference between their political positions. You could just as easily (and wrongly) claim that the large numbers of biblical references makes the Sisters a band 'mainly' influenced by Christianity...
I'm also far from sure that the Sisters are a band 'mainly' influenced by old T.S. Eliot, aside from the a few quotations / references plus Eldritch's adoption of the general flood=salvation motif at various points in the 1980s. The identification of Eldritch as some kind of Eliot acolyte is a huge exaggeration, especially given the massive difference between their political positions. You could just as easily (and wrongly) claim that the large numbers of biblical references makes the Sisters a band 'mainly' influenced by Christianity...
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 13:19
YupDark wrote:The Ghosties are a warm afternoon with a distorted guitar and a gorgeous hairstyle.
The Sisters are a wet autumn night with some yellow lights, baldness and sideburns.
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 13:34
So very well said.mugabe wrote:The Nephilim are mythology. The Sisters are Realpolitik.
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 17:03
If I had the slightest idea what you are rambling on about I'd most probably disagree.When it comes to philosophy I prefer "the Macc lads" and even they can get a little too intellectual for me.H. Blackrose wrote:The Sisters are a band influenced mainly by T. S. Eliot, left-libertarian politics and the great works of Western philosophy, and whose serious fans are of the same calibre. The Fields of the Nephilim are a band influenced mainly by slasher movies, H. P. Lovecraft and badly assimilated "chaos magick" theories, and whose serious fans are of the same calibre. The Sisters are culture. The Neph are what passes for culture among over-educated teenagers who think they're much cooler than they actually are.RobF wrote:The main difference being that Kierkegaard and Eldritch are right, and therefore allowed to be pretentious, and those people are wrong, entertaining, but deluded, and erm, a bit thick. (O.K. Thick-sounding, I was just being a tw*t, again)wild bill buttock wrote:You may think that's pretencious bollocks but try this then http://echoes.devin.com/triad.html
I actually really like a couple of Neph albums, but that's irrelevant to the current discussion.
What a crock of pretentious toss!Its music for f**k sake!
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 17:25
Syberberg wrote:Being a tw*t's just in yer Nietzsche, innit? Or are ya just a crotchety ald bugger who wishes he was Jung again?RobF wrote:
The main difference being that Kierkegaard and Eldritch are right, and therefore allowed to be pretentious, and those people are wrong, entertaining, but deluded, and erm, a bit thick. (O.K. Thick-sounding, I was just being a tw*t, again)
You won't need your coat, it's warm out..
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 17:53
Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
who could think you under the table.
David Hume could out consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel,
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
who was just as sloshed as Schlegel.
There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya
'bout the raisin' of the wrist.
Socrates himself was permanently pissed.
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
after half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away,
'alf a crate of whiskey every day!
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
and Hobbes was fond of his Dram.
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart:
"I drink, therefore I am."
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.
who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
who could think you under the table.
David Hume could out consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel,
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
who was just as sloshed as Schlegel.
There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya
'bout the raisin' of the wrist.
Socrates himself was permanently pissed.
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
after half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away,
'alf a crate of whiskey every day!
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
and Hobbes was fond of his Dram.
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart:
"I drink, therefore I am."
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.
Posted: 21 Jun 2006, 17:57
Your making me thristy....wild bill buttock wrote:Immanuel Kant was a real pissant
who was very rarely stable.
Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
who could think you under the table.
David Hume could out consume
Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel,
And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
who was just as sloshed as Schlegel.
There's nothing Nietzsche couldn't teach ya
'bout the raisin' of the wrist.
Socrates himself was permanently pissed.
John Stuart Mill, of his own free will,
after half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.
Plato, they say, could stick it away,
'alf a crate of whiskey every day!
Aristotle, Aristotle was a bugger for the bottle,
and Hobbes was fond of his Dram.
And Rene Descartes was a drunken fart:
"I drink, therefore I am."
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.
Denken Sie Orange!!!