Heartland

stufarq wrote:

Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:As for "Adam", it could be Adam Ant who had trodden a more commercial path in the relatively recent past, or pro Sisters journalist Adam Sweeting. It could even be a pun on Adams (seeing as the next word starts with an s).

The third sounds most like Von although I suspect there's some more highbrow reference we're all missing. The mention of Jesus in the same verse has always drawn me toeards the Biblical Adam but I can't see any link to the song.

I always took this Adam for granted ... oh, and yes - clearly followed by an "s" ... ...

Anu wrote:Any possibility you could briefly explain the reference about the mysterious Igor?

A Rock And A Hard Place lyrics. See here http://www.ultimatesistersguide.org/doc ... htm#div008

As for actually explaining it, that's been discussed a couple of times on HL to very little avail:
http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=16729
http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic. ... 0&start=75 (post #78-84 but doesn't really say anything useful)

Being645 wrote:I always took this Adam for granted ... oh, and yes - clearly followed by an "s" ... ...

Why? What's the connection to the song?

stufarq wrote:

Being645 wrote:I always took this Adam for granted ... oh, and yes - clearly followed by an "s" ... ...

Why? What's the connection to the song?

... just like Jesus never came ... ...

Anu wrote:

paint it black wrote:everybody knows where Igor is. Duh!

I suppose I should now cower in your presence -
grow a heart!!

anyone who had a heart would know that i love you. no really

Don't worry about embarrasing yourself.

There are so many layers to Eldritch's lyrics. It says something, I think, that we can still obsessively nitpick a song he wrote not far short of thirty years ago.

Being645 wrote:

stufarq wrote:

Being645 wrote:I always took this Adam for granted ... oh, and yes - clearly followed by an "s" ... ...

Why? What's the connection to the song?

... just like Jesus never came ... ...

EDIT:
Well, most likely you will even less understand why I've always associated Igor with this one ...

Being645 wrote:

stufarq wrote:

Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:As for "Adam", it could be Adam Ant who had trodden a more commercial path in the relatively recent past, or pro Sisters journalist Adam Sweeting. It could even be a pun on Adams (seeing as the next word starts with an s).

The third sounds most like Von although I suspect there's some more highbrow reference we're all missing. The mention of Jesus in the same verse has always drawn me toeards the Biblical Adam but I can't see any link to the song.

I always took this Adam for granted ... oh, and yes - clearly followed by an "s" ... ...

Adam Smith would make sense in that it (i.e. the reference to the father of capitalism) is mentioned after the bit about shaking the hand that feeds you. However, Biblical Adam makes sense in the Jesus context in that Eve's Adam was the father of the blame culture, which was clearly a problem in the relationship (whether with the band, a partner, or to take @MarkFiend's multi-layered approach, both) being described in NTTC, whereas Jesus was very much the opposite (i.e. forgiveness of sins), so it is as if he never came in the context of that relationship.

@Stufarq The reason I was bringing in other lyrics was to try to show how seems to swing from talking about issues of commitment, communication, direction and desire in a physical relationship to the same issues within the band - unless "Careful" is lingering at the door in a way I had never imagined before !

But with historical hindsight - the subtext in a band context on FALAA seems fairly clear : I'm fed up of the arguing (million conversations etc), it's no time to run and hide or linger at the door, choose to walk away (like Ben) or stay...but if you do, remember that the band is mine (first and last and always).

Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:@Stufarq The reason I was bringing in other lyrics was to try to show how seems to swing from talking about issues of commitment, communication, direction and desire in a physical relationship to the same issues within the band - unless "Careful" is lingering at the door in a way I had never imagined before !

But with historical hindsight - the subtext in a band context on FALAA seems fairly clear : I'm fed up of the arguing (million conversations etc), it's no time to run and hide or linger at the door, choose to walk away (like Ben) or stay...but if you do, remember that the band is mine (first and last and always).

I knew what you meant and to an extent I was just joking.

I'm fed up of the arguing (million conversations etc), it's no time to run and hide or linger at the door, choose to walk away (like Gary)

* fixed for you

Anu wrote:

Anu wrote:

paint it black wrote:everybody knows where Igor is. Duh!

I suppose I should now cower in your presence -
grow a heart!!

P.S. Don't be mean. I want to like you; and I can't, if you hurt my feelings.

you don't know me so you can't like me. but i like that you're still keen etc.. which Mark framed nicely