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weebleswobble wrote:Jon Pertwee

Tom Baker

Bill Drummond.

Flipin 'eck! 19 replies..............I was expecting James Blast but hey! Hello everybody!
It IS a book by Rene Guenon in which he talks abouts Leibnitz' Infinitesimal Calculus the crux of which is that number has been reduced to its quantitative aspect rather than it's qualitative nature which explains why the mathematics of the ancients is so unintelligible.............I think. But hey dont worry as we all follow Von and his humanistic tendencies we can dismiss this thread altogether......................I was just bored and suffering from MLC..........and work is crap!.............. my wife has left me...........and work is crap! (btw this thread started in the sisters chat see 'serpents kiss')

It's a book by Rene Guenon - Bizarrely, someone bought this for me for my birthday.

That's not bizarre - clearly someone had to get you a present but couldn't be bothered so gave you a book that they wished they hadn't bought and probably didn't understand

EmeraldSignal wrote:I was expecting James Blast

am I so predictable?
sorry about all the badness that has been happening to you, why not vent yer steam in here http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic. ... 043#295043

keep the faith
James

OK!

EmeraldSignal wrote:OK!

please calm down, we are a help system, y'know

EmeraldSignal wrote:in which he talks abouts Leibnitz' Infinitesimal Calculus the crux of which is that number has been reduced to its quantitative aspect rather than it's qualitative nature which explains why the mathematics of the ancients is so unintelligible.............I think. But hey dont worry as we )

and hence the eye of horus; the golden ratio and all. god, even ferns and shells can work it out

EmeraldSignal wrote:It's a book by Rene Guenon - Bizarrely, someone bought this for me for my birthday.

That's not bizarre - clearly someone had to get you a present but couldn't be bothered so gave you a book that they wished they hadn't bought and probably didn't understand

But you didn't give me it

PiB Perhaps you should try talking to the shells and ferns, they might explain to you what the book is actually about -

Arch Deviant wrote:
PiB Perhaps you should try talking to the shells and ferns, they might explain to you what the book is actually about -

perhaps, i haven't read the book, that i'll admit, but i have studied Leibnitz work as part of one of my degrees, which included advanced calculus and chaos theory

as i recall, the nautilus for example is contructed of a golden ratio which forms, by extraction, into a golden spiral...but also, it's just a very old and very pretty shell

Dark wrote:Bill Drummond.

Dollis Hill

paint it black wrote:the golden ratio and all. god, even ferns and shells can work it out

I see a good number of human beings in Glasgow city centre who can't.

Spoken as someone who would make vitruvian man weep in her utter perfection, of course...

James Blast wrote:

EmeraldSignal wrote:OK!

please calm down, we are a help system, y'know

Hi,
My name is Paul and I'm addicted to HL!

markfiend wrote:

Dark wrote:Bill Drummond.

Dollis Hill

Trash Bin Avenue?

IZ.

paint it black wrote:perhaps, i haven't read the book, that i'll admit, but i have studied Leibnitz work as part of one of my degrees, which included advanced calculus and chaos theory

as i recall, the nautilus for example is contructed of a golden ratio which forms, by extraction, into a golden spiral...but also, it's just a very old and very pretty shell

Excellent So as you have read Leibni(t)z you will know as a rationalist you don't need to read the book, you can just acquire the knowledge through thought and pure reason

Um. Observation is needed too is it not? About all it's possible to derive from thought and reason alone is Descartes' cogito ergo sum

Or am I putting Descartes before de horse?

markfiend wrote:Um. Observation is needed too is it not? About all it's possible to derive from thought and reason alone is Descartes' cogito ergo sum

Or am I putting Descartes before de horse?

"I am thinking, therefore I exist" applies to our conscious existence. Leibniz proposes that experience is unneccesary - all can be derived from thought alone, as all is God.

There was one great rationalist: Spinoza. I am terribly grateful for Descartes, even though his philosophy is somewhat flawed, who, in influencing Malebranche, influenced Spinoza's Pantheism.

Just thought I'd pipe in with that... harrumph.

Without a doubt, Descartes, Spinoza & Leibniz are great rationalists and worthy of great respect.

i rate kant, though he was a wee bit silly. strange childhood never revovered. fully

Guys! guys! all of these fings we are talking about can only be grasped by the faculty in man which is higher than reason, which, has gradually become atrophied since the time of around the Renaisance...........I think. The golden ratio apparently occurs throughout nature and was used in buildings........ well so what? As we are all NOT goths here we should all understand what the profound effect something like the golden ratio should have upon us..............otherwise like me yer thick. (thickly veiled that is).............(your seven veils unfold give me forbidden places.....).......I had a better day at work today and my wife came back.

Glasgow Central (low level)

Sleep is a lonely thing, James - especially there!

Arch Deviant wrote:Sleep is a lonely thing, James - especially there!

aye...and it's a hell of a lot less comfy than the Intercity lounge in Bucchanan Street Bus Station...IIRC