and you know what? I totally understand it. Some months ago i was surprised seeing Iggy live and meeting up with his fans and shaking hands and more, and i totally realized: jesus, von is an asshole he's just hiding in the fog, mumble and leave.
But if Von didn't, and he would jump around, sign cd's and pose on pictures for every goth in suburbia - then it wouldn't be the same.
I like the Salinger idea: 'Von never meets someone'. I mean, it is to-ta-lly weird of course, but the mystery keeps unsolved.
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in Polish language "von" (literally: "won") means get the f*ck out...
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Or maybe his friends have nothing to do with the Sisters and the music industry in general.ormfdmrush wrote:as Ben said "he never meets anyone"
I guess that's just who he is : a professional musician, but no rock star.
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I'd think it's exactly the opposite.Badlander wrote:I guess that's just who he is : a professional musician, but no rock star.
a professional musician would sign autographs, talk to fans, give interviews, lick arses of rec industry executives, be an all 'round nice chap in order to produce and sell records.
a rockstar gives a f**k.
Put their heads on f*cking pikes in front of the venue for all I care.
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the same in RussianBartoszek wrote:in Polish language "von" (literally: "won") means get the f*ck out...
in one case this one
and in the other it's just an article meaning "out"
he's neither professional musician nor rockstarcanon docre wrote:I'd think it's exactly the opposite.Badlander wrote:I guess that's just who he is : a professional musician, but no rock star.
a professional musician would sign autographs, talk to fans, give interviews, lick arses of rec industry executives, be an all 'round nice chap in order to produce and sell records.
a rockstar gives a f**k.
he's just
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How about...a sentient being?
D'uh.
D'uh.
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Whatever. You get the idea.canon docre wrote:I'd think it's exactly the opposite.Badlander wrote:I guess that's just who he is : a professional musician, but no rock star.
a professional musician would sign autographs, talk to fans, give interviews, lick arses of rec industry executives, be an all 'round nice chap in order to produce and sell records.
a rockstar gives a f**k.
I'd end this moment to be with you
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Yes they will (or have), and yes they do. I'm here all the bloody time!Badlander wrote:Some HLers did meet and talk to him, but they won't tell... simply because they don't show up very often.
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I met him at the Fenton gig, very briefly. I asked him how he stayed so thin.
He seemed like a nice man, so I gave him a cigarette.
He seemed like a nice man, so I gave him a cigarette.
Very little of what you believe to be true is actually the case.
Sorry.
Sorry.
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I wasn't *quite* so ludicrously obsessed by then but I still had a heart-attack when my mate Rik gave me an odd look and whispered, "four o'clock" and I turned to see Von about six inches away.
I was pleased with my success in not swooning, giggling etc.
God knows what I'd say to him now. Meeting your idols is one thing but meeting idols you've been publicly impersonating for eight years is a whole other level of awkwardness.
I was pleased with my success in not swooning, giggling etc.
God knows what I'd say to him now. Meeting your idols is one thing but meeting idols you've been publicly impersonating for eight years is a whole other level of awkwardness.
Very little of what you believe to be true is actually the case.
Sorry.
Sorry.
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Oh yeah I forgot that you know Rik too. He's a great chap.
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He certainly is a most top and splendid fellow.markfiend wrote:Oh yeah I forgot that you know Rik too. He's a great chap.
If by "know" you mean "spent ten years in a band with*" then yes!
If by "know" you mean carnally then no.
*eight of those ten years were probably spent getting drunk and saying how we should really do a gig/write a song/have a rehearsal at some point.
I think that living in the same house for three or four years and rehearsing roughly once every six months is a glorious victory for procrastination. I'm sure could tell us a few things about that though!
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He was impressed with you, wasn't he Mocky? Sure I read somewhere you were worthy of a smile.
Sorry to p*ss off the people who were enjoying getting pissed off at his superior attitude, but at Joseph's Well, he was the bloody soul of courtesy. Was friendly to all and sundry, had his picture taken with assorted folks, made small talk, and even allowed his skin to touch Markfiends.
Truly, not the arsehole people make him out to be.
Sorry to p*ss off the people who were enjoying getting pissed off at his superior attitude, but at Joseph's Well, he was the bloody soul of courtesy. Was friendly to all and sundry, had his picture taken with assorted folks, made small talk, and even allowed his skin to touch Markfiends.
Truly, not the arsehole people make him out to be.
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he can be seen in and around the pubs in york most weekends
i think he's just shy and why not
i think he's just shy and why not
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it seems he is friendly only in his livingplace (or kinda)
so i'll grow up, make money and go to Leeds/York/somewhere to buy some beer for my main inspiration source
they could play a secret gig then under the name Russian Mothers
so i'll grow up, make money and go to Leeds/York/somewhere to buy some beer for my main inspiration source
they could play a secret gig then under the name Russian Mothers
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I kind of met Von backstage after the Winterthur/Switzerland gig in 91. He was hanging around in an easy mood, giving autographs to some fans. Suddenly he was standing right in front of me and we said hi. Then we both went our way. Lifechanging experience...
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Hm. I've not heard that. I'd be happy to believe it, so I will!timsinister wrote:He was impressed with you, wasn't he Mocky? Sure I read somewhere you were worthy of a smile.
Maybe you're thinking of Paddy? Apparently Von seemed positive when he met him at the 21st bash.
Very little of what you believe to be true is actually the case.
Sorry.
Sorry.
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you might be thinking of gary...mockeldritch wrote:Hm. I've not heard that. I'd be happy to believe it, so I will!timsinister wrote:He was impressed with you, wasn't he Mocky? Sure I read somewhere you were worthy of a smile.
Maybe you're thinking of Paddy? Apparently Von seemed positive when he met him at the 21st bash.
i played him a couple of live snippets of the smurphs doing alice & body electric, recorded on my camera-phone, and he seemed genuinely impressed at sid's howling
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Badlander wrote:Or maybe his friends have nothing to do with the Sisters and the music industry in general.ormfdmrush wrote:as Ben said "he never meets anyone"
I guess that's just who he is : a professional musician, but no rock star.
ummmm, i think simon ("nurse"), choque, justin (nma), jez (roadie to the stars), and the rest of his chums might be surprised to hear themselves described that way
i gather uncle andy can regularly be seen on the terraces at elland road these days, watching leeds united. not that he's a fan as such, more that several of his friends are season ticket holders and he regularly pops along with them...
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should be very easy to spot then, in that crowd of, i dunno, a 100 or soQuiff Boy wrote:
i gather uncle andy can regularly be seen on the terraces at elland road these days, watching leeds united. not that he's a fan as such, more that several of his friends are season ticket holders and he regularly pops along with them...
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Quite charitable of him, I'd say. I assume he's taken that lovely Red scarf off his belt these days, if he's wasting his saturdays in the Asda Smart Price Butter Stand or whatever it's called.paint it black wrote:should be very easy to spot then, in that crowd of, i dunno, a 100 or soQuiff Boy wrote:
i gather uncle andy can regularly be seen on the terraces at elland road these days, watching leeds united. not that he's a fan as such, more that several of his friends are season ticket holders and he regularly pops along with them...
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Manchester United ceased to be a "football club" sometime around the mid-nineties, choosing instead to become a marketing machine, and the primary revenue-generating arm of a consortium of race horse owners.Planet Dave wrote:Quite charitable of him, I'd say. I assume he's taken that lovely Red scarf off his belt these days, if he's wasting his saturdays in the Asda Smart Price Butter Stand or whatever it's called.paint it black wrote:should be very easy to spot then, in that crowd of, i dunno, a 100 or soQuiff Boy wrote:
i gather uncle andy can regularly be seen on the terraces at elland road these days, watching leeds united. not that he's a fan as such, more that several of his friends are season ticket holders and he regularly pops along with them...
The scarf went west approximately around the same time.
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