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Posted: 10 Jun 2007, 20:42
by Ramone
Rude presenters. The one thing that is sweeter than watching a 'rude' presenter is when the tables are tuned on certain 'wacky/ zany' sycophantic t.v interviewers who when faced with real challenges will never ask the questions your crying out for them to ask.

One of my televisual wet dreams was when Chris Evans attempted to interview living legend Howard Stern on TFI Friday. Not only did Stern make Evans look small and insignificant but on the previous weeks show they showed a clip of Evans walking in on Stern's radio show in New York where Stern said live on the air 'who the f**k is this guy?' .

Just last week Nicole Richie was on David Letterman and when asked about Paris Hilton she replied ' Well, everyone goes to prison' . The floodgates opened and she was beaten into submission from that point onward.

British tv and radio 'personalities' aren't actually 'rude or clever' they are just scared to open up and ask questions people really want to hear. This may be down to bad researchers or just cowardice on behalf of the D.J. You only have to listen to Jo Whiley on Radio One as she fawns and gushes over anyone and everyone she meets or talks about. Much the same can be said about such luminaries as Parkinson, Moyles and Jonathon Ross. Put a microphone in front of them and they get starry eyed and ask banal questions all day.

As for James Whale throwing Hussey off a national live television show. Hussey was playing up for the cameras and anyone in their right mind would of done the same thing. The man was being a nob head after all.

I just hate Moyles with a passion that words cannot begin to describe. The talentless plagiarising hack that he is.

Rant over, For now. :)

Posted: 10 Jun 2007, 20:43
by biggy
SINsister wrote:IMHO, the folks who queue up to gleefully watch people (anyone, I don't care who it is or what they do) being raked over the coals disrespectfully and with obvious malice aforethought are akin to the folks who cheered the horrendously-violent deaths of slaves and gladiators in ancient Rome. Lowest-common-denominator knuckle-draggers, all of them. And ya know, it takes an especially "big" person to be able to put others down for a living. Jealous much, sir? Talentless w@nker. UGH. :lol: :roll: :von:

I bet you don't even laugh when young children fall over.

Posted: 10 Jun 2007, 20:47
by 6FeetOver
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Posted: 10 Jun 2007, 20:51
by Izzy HaveMercy
biggy wrote:I bet you don't even laugh when young children fall over.
I do.

I just don't laugh when another kid laughs at him and says "yer own fault, you talentless wanker! you stupid arsewipe!" etc.

IZ.

Posted: 10 Jun 2007, 20:57
by smiscandlon
SINsister wrote:I'm not into worshipping or fawning over either side. For me, there's a huge difference between tongue-in-cheek taking of the p1ss and outright boorishness, though. In the Clive vs. Bee Gees "interview," Clive's haranguing is incessant, the barbs never stop, and he never lets the poor guys (who seem like affable chaps, despite their fame) get a word in edgewise. There's an art to intelligent sarcasm and gentle gibing; some degree of self-deprecation is also probably necessary for survival in the spotlight. Regardless, I saw no "balance" here - Clive behaved purely like a jerk.
But that was Clive's "style"- he wasn't "haranguing" the Bee Gees any more or less than he did any other guest on his show.

These "stars" should have at least some idea of what they're signing up for when the agree to appear on a TV show. That's particularly true in the Never Mind The Buzzcocks examples that biggy quoted in his original post.

Posted: 10 Jun 2007, 21:12
by Izzy HaveMercy
True, they have to know... but ofttimes they just have to show up because their manager reckons it is good publicity.

Now, about Amstell, I can see the joke in reading some of Prestons' wife's comments in front of an audience. I for one found them rather boring and it had no entertainment value at all. But that could be me. But all this adds to the show is trying to embarass a famous person with a cheap shot at him...

Mark Lamarr had the decency and the insight to know where the limit was, IMO (and was way funnier, but that's personal). Amstell, just pushes on beyond the limit. Everyone can do that. Doesn't make him a good presenter tho. Just a rude one.

IZ.

Posted: 10 Jun 2007, 21:44
by Izzy HaveMercy
Just watched the whiole Tourette episode again on YouTube, and I stand corrected, I almost choked with laughter! :lol:

Especially the bit where Amstell plays the Sex Pistol sample ;D

But that Tourette is a real prick anyway...

IZ.

Posted: 10 Jun 2007, 21:48
by Ramone
I have no sympathy for guests when they go on certain shows and are given an 'awkward' time by the host.

Your Publicist is paid to root out and cherry pick which shows and which presenters will best suit your particular persona and character.

If you go on Parkinson he's not going to ask about anal sex and drug binges , but if you cross over to the Stern show you know full well that's all he'll want to ask you. He won't care that your new album just turned triple platinum and your going on the Royal Variety show that night. He'll let you open up and be yourself, something many people wish they could do - Can you imagine for one second how boring it must be being asked the same question every single time you do an interview over and over again in just that single day? What made you call the album blah blah blah..? How do you like England Yawn yawn ?

Melanie C has been on hundreds of pop kiddie shows and all the main stream British chat shows for years. But to this day, she is still the only person to get up and walk out of Stern's show in disgust. Due to the fact she didn't know what to expect from him. That was down to bad planning, not Howard.

The Bee Gees are big fans of Howard and vica versa and they've been guests on many occasions. Howard asked the questions about the death of one the brothers and moved on - some how Anderson tried his own approach of interviewing and it back fired on him. This is down to professionalism.

The secret to Stern's success is to make the guest comfortable and let them open up in their own way. But to badger some one when they are clearly uncomfortable about certain subjects is a rookie mistake. And this was Anderson's downfall that night.

Posted: 10 Jun 2007, 21:58
by James Blast
this thread is irrelevant

Posted: 10 Jun 2007, 22:02
by Ramone
I agree..I going back to watching Marisa Tomie in My Cousin Vinny..hubba hubba :D

Posted: 10 Jun 2007, 23:00
by weebleswobble
Highly entertaining..

Posted: 11 Jun 2007, 06:49
by 6FeetOver
James Blast wrote:this thread is irrelevant
...as are most, both here at HL and just about everywhere else in the world...

What isn't, in the grand scheme of things, eh?

Posted: 11 Jun 2007, 10:03
by biggy
SINsister wrote:
James Blast wrote:this thread is irrelevant
...as are most, both here at HL and just about everywhere else in the world...

What isn't, in the grand scheme of things, eh?
My heroine :kiss:

The only thread on the front page that ISN'T irrelevant is the "Christian Prante, doc p, 1. Todestag" thread.

Posted: 11 Jun 2007, 10:13
by markfiend
The thing I thought about the Simon Amstell vs. Preston incident was that Amstell hadn't even been particularly unpleasant. IMO Preston deliberately over-reacted just to get some publicity.

The thing with your Parkinson, Jonathan Ross, Graham Norton type interviews is a lot of the big stars have the same management companies, so the implicit threat is "if you give Celebrity X a hard time, we'll not let you interview any of our stars. And we handle Madonna and Tom Cruise." -- so of course the interviewer doesn't mention Celebrity X's recent arrest for kerb-crawling whatever. Play it safe is the name of the game. :roll: