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markfiend wrote:You learn something new every day! I didn't know that. Just looked it up, and Matt 17:21 does not appear in the original Greek.

I never knew why, but a quick google gave me this:

The KJV version of Matthew 17 includes verse 21, which has the same wording as Mark 9:29. The textual evidence shows that Matthew 17:21 was not in the original text of Matthew but was simply inserted by a later copiest to make Matthew's account agree with Mark's account of the story.

So now we know.

blimey - its getting a bit theological around here today isnt it?

James Blast wrote:yer 'avin a laff, aintcha?

what strange dialect is this...more ancient greek perchance?

Dark wrote:"Jesus saves... everyone else takes 20 damage"

Jesus and Satan have a discussion as to who is the better programmer. This goes on for a few hours until they come to an agreement to hold a contest, with God as the judge.

They sit themselves at their computers and begin. They type furiously, lines of code streaming up the screen, for several hours straight. Seconds before the end of the competition, a bolt of lightning strikes, taking out the electricity. Moments later, the power is restored, and God announces that the contest is over.

He asks Satan to show what he has come up with. Satan is visibly upset, and cries, "I have nothing. I lost it all when the power went out."

"Very well, then," says God, "let us see if Jesus fared any better."

Jesus enters a command, and the screen comes to life in vivid display, the voices of an angelic choir pour forth from the speakers. Satan is astonished.

He stutters, "B-b-but how? I lost everything, yet Jesus' program is intact. How did he do it?"

God smiled all-knowingly, "Jesus saves."

all 'round.

markfiend wrote:ETA: Oddly, my Greek interlinear NT has Sigma represented by "C" not "Σ" so it looks like "ΕΔΑΚΡΥCΕΝ Ο ΙΗCΟΥC" -- I presume that's how it was written in antiquity.

The C was only used in lower case, and at the end of a word. It looks a bit similar to the French 'ç' then. In upper case, as you use it, a sigma should look like that M turned 90 degrees to the left.

IIRC from my education, which is almost 15 years ago

IZ.

Nic wrote:

hellboy69 wrote:Skinny Puppy also sampled the Hellraiser usage, on "Fascist Jock Itch" ~ hmmm, must give it a spin now

Also used by:

Ministry - Just One Fix
Leaether Strip - Satanic Citizen
Creaming Jesus - Casserole
Entombed - Hellraiser

Amongst others.

A bit OT I know, but hey...

The Belgian Hellectro band Suicide Commando turned it into a stonking floor-filler of a song.

Some of you people shook yer tailfeather to it at the FGG Feb 24 gig

IZ.

James Blast wrote:Post#17-21, yer 'avin a laff, aintcha?

I wasnae

IZ.

Izzy HaveMercy wrote:

markfiend wrote:ETA: Oddly, my Greek interlinear NT has Sigma represented by "C" not "Σ" so it looks like "ΕΔΑΚΡΥCΕΝ Ο ΙΗCΟΥC" -- I presume that's how it was written in antiquity.

The C was only used in lower case, and at the end of a word. It looks a bit similar to the French 'ç' then. In upper case, as you use it, a sigma should look like that M turned 90 degrees to the left.

IIRC from my education, which is almost 15 years ago

IZ.

I know that. Check out the online transliteration table though. Sigma is represented by C not Σ. Go figure.

Quite stoopeed when they got the rest right

IZ.

Hom_Corleone wrote: In some places in the western English-speaking world, including the UK, Ireland (particularly Dublin) .

"Jesus wept"Is not something you would hear to often in Dublin.
You are more likly to hear something along the lines of "JESUS f**king CHRIST " or just a simple JASUS
I personally prefer the less offensive but equally blasphemous FOR JASUS SAKE

So you lot were offered Greek in school? That's just not effing fair.

Izzy HaveMercy wrote:The Belgian Hellectro band Suicide Commando...

I used to quite like them...

SomeKindOfStranger wrote:

markfiend wrote:"Jesus wept" (John 11:35) is the shortest verse in (most translations of) the Bible.

Original Greek: ΕΔΑΚΡΥΣΕΝ Ο ΙΗΣΟΥΣ
literally "Weeps the Jesus"

Yes -I've seen grown men argue about this in a pub quiz! A few translations have job 3:2 as 'He said', but most have 'and job said'.

Or there is the 'trick question' answer - Matthew 17:21, which is completley missing from a number of translations.

Indeed- "But this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting."

Doesn't appear in a number of translations, though more importantly it refers to Jesus supposedly curing an epileptic by chasing out the devil

Spigel wrote:

Hom_Corleone wrote: In some places in the western English-speaking world, including the UK, Ireland (particularly Dublin) .

"Jesus wept"Is not something you would hear to often in Dublin.
You are more likly to hear something along the lines of "JESUS f**king CHRIST " or just a simple JASUS
I personally prefer the less offensive but equally blasphemous FOR JASUS SAKE

Or "Jaaaaaayyyyyyyyyysus" even.

Jesus H. Christ on a stick, too.

or "Julian H. Cope, the very same" or so he said

Or as Jarvis sang ...

"I am not Jesus
though I have the same initials."

mh wrote:

Spigel wrote:

Hom_Corleone wrote: In some places in the western English-speaking world, including the UK, Ireland (particularly Dublin) .

"Jesus wept"Is not something you would hear to often in Dublin.
You are more likly to hear something along the lines of "JESUS f**king CHRIST " or just a simple JASUS
I personally prefer the less offensive but equally blasphemous FOR JASUS SAKE

Or "Jaaaaaayyyyyyyyyysus" even.

"Jaaaaayyyyyyyysus f**king christ I drop me f**king chips"

Spigel wrote:

mh wrote:

Spigel wrote: "Jesus wept"Is not something you would hear to often in Dublin.
You are more likly to hear something along the lines of "JESUS f**king CHRIST " or just a simple JASUS
I personally prefer the less offensive but equally blasphemous FOR JASUS SAKE

Or "Jaaaaaayyyyyyyyyysus" even.

"Jaaaaayyyyyyyysus f**king christ I drop me f**king chips"

You could get a few more syllables in there.

"Jeeeee-aaaaaa-eeee-yyyyyyyyyy-eeee-sus missus, giz 50p!"

mh wrote:

Spigel wrote:

mh wrote: Or "Jaaaaaayyyyyyyyyysus" even.

"Jaaaaayyyyyyyysus f**king christ I drop me f**king chips"

You could get a few more syllables in there.

"Jeeeee-aaaaaa-eeee-yyyyyyyyyy-eeee-sus missus, giz 50p!"

Very good indeed and how about this little bit of local collquailism
"Jeeeee-aaaaa-eeee-yyyyyyyy-eeeeee-sus would ya look at the state of yur one"

mh wrote:"Jeeeee-aaaaa-eeee-yyyyyyyy-eeeeee-sus she was bleedin' well poured into that dress, and her with a chisler an' all."

It WAS becoming a rather interesting linguistical thread...

And yes, we had Ancient Greek in school, because I followed Modern Languages, which made for (at ages 17 and 18):

Dutch (4 hrs), French (5 hrs), English (4hrs), German (4 hrs), Latin (4 hrs), Ancient Greek (4 hrs).

Which left us with a splendid 1 hour a week Maths and no sciences at all fer the rest

Then again, this all says nothing. I was rather good in English as well, and then I met the Weegies

IZ.

am I to blame for this ...



Nac Mac Feegle...

The only retort I can muster, at this juncture:

Clowns, innit?!