Giving Vision Thing a chance

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:lol: I liked the metaphor. :lol:

But yes - you are indeed right. I listen to VT (the track) when in the mood and maybe Ribbons, I was wrong and Something Fast. The rest don't get much of a look in. The main problem with it is it doesn't contain YCBTO. :innocent: :wink:
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Hom_Corleone wrote::lol: I liked the metaphor. :lol:

But yes - you are indeed right. I listen to VT (the track) when in the mood and maybe Ribbons, I was wrong and Something Fast. The rest don't get much of a look in. The main problem with it is it doesn't contain YCBTO. :innocent: :wink:
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Carpathian Psychonaut wrote:
Hom_Corleone wrote::lol: I liked the metaphor. :lol:

But yes - you are indeed right. I listen to VT (the track) when in the mood and maybe Ribbons, I was wrong and Something Fast. The rest don't get much of a look in. The main problem with it is it doesn't contain YCBTO. :innocent: :wink:
You were going so well but had to spoil it! :lol:
What's wrong with Something Fast? :lol:
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I like Vision Thing. I think if you like it or not depends on when you became a Sisters fan... I became a fan after all the official albums where released and listend to them not in the right chronological order so i like all the songs from the Sisters. :von: is just my favourite band - and the first band I ever called myself a fan of.
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VT is a stonking album, ffs. First sniff of it (besides More, which I loved instantly, though hasn't stood the test of time quite as well as most other tracks on it) was Doctor Jeep on the Annie Nightingale show on the Sunday before the albums release, sounded like Body Electric on speed (okay, more speed) at the time, still does (not live though, live its a wall of mud these days). But yeah, A Very Good Thing, obviously. Conversely, WYDSM tends to sound better live, certainly the Smoke & Mirrors version.

It's possibly fair to say that the album delivers its two biggest punches from the off, so the rest doesn't quite match up, but tbh I can't picture anything matching VT and Ribbons as an album opening double-whammy.

It has its own distinct flavour, just as FALAA & Floodland have theirs, yet its unmistakably Sisters. cf Susanne, Summer, Crash & Burn, Still, War On Drugs etc.

All in my humble opinion, of course. The kids think its w@nk.
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Little_Sister wrote:I like Vision Thing. I think if you like it or not depends on when you became a Sisters fan... I became a fan after all the official albums where released and listend to them not in the right chronological order so i like all the songs from the Sisters. :von: is just my favourite band - and the first band I ever called myself a fan of.
Indeed Little Sis - peers (?) younger than I took to it pronto, so perhaps that is what Eldritch intended? - Surely he enjoys 'teasing' us anyway?

Big Sis (Sinnie) quiet on this to date ...?

Oh yeah, interesting topic Tidal 8)
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reactiv8 wrote:Big Sis (Sinnie) quiet on this to date ...?
Nope! As stated in related threads, I'm on the fence on this one... :von:
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VT is Eldritchs (failed) attempt to break the US market.
I think if you like it or not depends on when you became a Sisters fan...
nope. I got into the Sisies back in 1985 and still think that VT is much better than that gothic dirge that is Floodland.

ok ok some songs were musicaly pitifully bootlicking the US mainstream, but served lyricwise with a pinch of salt.
The best songs on VT are among the best of their career - which I cant say of any song on FL.


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canon docre wrote:The best songs on VT are among the best of their career - which I cant say of any song on FL.

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Something Fast and Ribbons are among my favourites, while no song on FL gets a spin on Jezzies ipod.
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Floodland remains my favourite- Lucretia, Neverland and Dominion regularly get spins on my iPod :notworthy:
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Floodland is Eldritch's masterpiece. "Mother Russia rain down", but it never did. Everything else is anticlimax.

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markfiend wrote: When you've written the music for the end of the world, and then the world doesn't end, how do you follow it?
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First song I heard was More. That was a bit disappointing when it came out as a single.
Then I bought VT and ever since Ribbons has been my fav song.
Listening to the rest of the record it grew on me and after a couple of times I realised; this band has moved on....again... :notworthy:
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VT is probably their weakest album, but still light years ahead compared to a lot of other albums out there.
I like it in certain moods, but still only in certain moods...

Something Fast and When You Don't See Me hit a spot though.
You Could Be The One makes me laugh everytime I hear it.
:von: MUST have meant this thing as a joke, lines like
But all the things you share are
Better left unsaid
When you can give me head
And run your fingers through my hair

can't be meant serious and therefore it's a nice joke for a B-Side and an even nicer addition to the Remaster.

Just my 2 Cents...
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I like VT just the same as other Sisters records, it all depends on mood.
There is one thing about it though that doesn't depend on mood and is always 100% true whenever I listen to it: it is the record on which the vocals sound by far the best, I don't mean the singing or the voice itself, but just the way it it is mixed into the rest of the sounds, well, I'm sure you know what I mean. It is mixed in the way in which it should've been done from the start. 8)
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markfiend wrote:When you've written the music for the end of the world, and then the world doesn't end, how do you follow it?
Nicely put Mark. That sums it all up very well really. :?
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Hom_Corleone wrote:
markfiend wrote:When you've written the music for the end of the world, and then the world doesn't end, how do you follow it?
Nicely put Mark. That sums it all up very well really. :?
Very much so, but surely the answer is to blow the fckr up yerself, just so you can appreciate your music in its right context. :von:
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Planet Dave wrote:
Hom_Corleone wrote:
markfiend wrote:When you've written the music for the end of the world, and then the world doesn't end, how do you follow it?
Nicely put Mark. That sums it all up very well really. :?
Very much so, but surely the answer is to blow the fckr up yerself, just so you can appreciate your music in its right context. :von:
If only it had turned out that way Dave. If only all that speed had turned him into a creative whirlwind. Instead of.... :?

But then we all start off with good intentions. :(
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Visoin Thing* (sic) on my new 6 speaker set-up, at extreme volume.

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I guess Andy's career just has different eras. And I happen to like some, and not like some others.

Though I think you're right when you say VT is still much better than most non-Sisters music. When I first learned of the Sisters, I just kept realising their music is just on a completely different "level" of quality compared to anything I had ever heard. Correction- there is no comparison.
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Tidal wrote: Correction- there is no comparison.
You're a quick learner my fellow country man! :notworthy: :wink:
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vision thing is great, I always liked it just as much as the others , if anything the new songs would make a vision thing II, it was totally of its time too- the 1990's Sisters rock beast (which also kinda upgraded and degothified the back catalogue, kinda ) also it has dated a lot less badly than most of its contemporaries.
@Markfiend isnt that a Steve Sutherland quote ?? :innocent:
The real problem with Vision Thing is the lack of what came after so we become fixated on what little official material there is.

Vision Thing the song is definitely top 5 sisters songs too, ever.

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This is one that I never bought when it came out, because I didn't like Floodland as much as First & Last & Always. I only picked up a copy when I bought the remastered edition, and regret not having given it the time of day earlier. Doh!! :oops: :oops:
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