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I feel a bit uneasy when I read things like that, yes it's great if we get cures for diseases and all that but hmmmmmmm I don't like it

I don't think we're civilised enough to be attempting stuff like this. The world is too unequal regarding human rights, tolerance and understanding of other cultures etc etc. I think that we should be concentrating on these things rather than scientific experiments. We might have alot of highly developed technology, but we're not all reading from the same set of guidelines to life and thats what we should be trying to achieve. Then we can concentrate on scientific things. And until we stop using things for financial gain aswell.

I see your point, but how are we going to learn? I'm afraid we are going to fall (deep) before we can pull ourselves (mankind) up on our feet again.
besides there isn't the technology yet to do the harm most people are afraid of when things as this are discussed.
Maybe this is the road to take for people to start asking the right questions, cultural differences are kind of meaningless when super advanced technologies as these become more available.

christophe wrote:I see your point, but how are we going to learn? I'm afraid we are going to fall (deep) before we can pull ourselves (mankind) up on our feet again.
besides there isn't the technology yet to do the harm most people are afraid of when things as this are discussed.
Maybe this is the road to take for people to start asking the right questions, cultural differences are kind of meaningless when super advanced technologies as these become more available.

People can learn by understanding how the world works and by not using advances in science and psychology to make money.

As long as people want to make money at other peoples expense then we will fall deeper and deeper as you say christophe.

As for cultural differences being meaningless - I'm talking about getting our priorities right. Ignorance and racism is still alive and well, as is controlling people. Scientific things like this should be on the back burner, well and truely.

Almiche V wrote:I don't think we're civilised enough to be attempting stuff like this. The world is too unequal regarding human rights, tolerance and understanding of other cultures etc etc. I think that we should be concentrating on these things rather than scientific experiments. We might have alot of highly developed technology, but we're not all reading from the same set of guidelines to life and thats what we should be trying to achieve. Then we can concentrate on scientific things. And until we stop using things for financial gain aswell.

We should.. etc. However, it doesn't work that way.
Those with an interest in those results will see to it that they'll get them.
Standing there saying "we shouldn't!" isn't going to stop them. At the worst, it'll stop responsible researchers and hand initiative over to unscrupulous ones, who then might use it against us (or sell it to someone who does). Which would be the least desirable outcome, I think.

SINsister wrote:I hear that...I fantasize constantly about getting rid of my meat carcass and uploading my consciousness into the 'net...

But Sinnie it's such an attractive meat carcass you have

I can honestly say I dont think I've ever used that line before

DerekR wrote:

SINsister wrote:I hear that...I fantasize constantly about getting rid of my meat carcass and uploading my consciousness into the 'net...

But Sinnie it's such an attractive meat carcass you have

I can honestly say I dont think I've ever used that line before

It's obviously been a while since you've had to chat up a Glasga burd...

smiscandlon wrote:

DerekR wrote:

SINsister wrote:I hear that...I fantasize constantly about getting rid of my meat carcass and uploading my consciousness into the 'net...

But Sinnie it's such an attractive meat carcass you have

I can honestly say I dont think I've ever used that line before

It's obviously been a while since you've had to chat up a Glasga burd...

Aye true, and she was fi Cambuslang

DerekR wrote:

SINsister wrote:I hear that...I fantasize constantly about getting rid of my meat carcass and uploading my consciousness into the 'net...

But Sinnie it's such an attractive meat carcass you have

Thanks (I think...)!


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nowayjose wrote:

Almiche V wrote:I don't think we're civilised enough to be attempting stuff like this. The world is too unequal regarding human rights, tolerance and understanding of other cultures etc etc. I think that we should be concentrating on these things rather than scientific experiments. We might have alot of highly developed technology, but we're not all reading from the same set of guidelines to life and thats what we should be trying to achieve. Then we can concentrate on scientific things. And until we stop using things for financial gain aswell.

We should.. etc. However, it doesn't work that way.
Those with an interest in those results will see to it that they'll get them.
Standing there saying "we shouldn't!" isn't going to stop them. At the worst, it'll stop responsible researchers and hand initiative over to unscrupulous ones, who then might use it against us (or sell it to someone who does). Which would be the least desirable outcome, I think.

Am fully aware it doesn't work that way. Doesn't mean we have to put up with it. Unless we change then things will get alot worse before they get better. And one of the definitions of evil is a good man who does nothing.

I don't understand what people are frightened of. What's so ethically controversial about this? It's not like it's anything particularly new to create transgenic bacteria. (Hell, I've done it myself!)

markfiend wrote:It's not like it's anything particularly new to create transgenic bacteria. (Hell, I've done it myself!)

Yeah, but we never doubted you were a Supreme Being, Mark. It's a different set of rules for the rest of us

Teach us o' wise one!

I'm not the messiah, I'm a very naughty boy...