Heartland

stufarq wrote:Most depressing song ever?

The Mr Blobby Song.

which mix? all the versions i have are uplifting. especially the 'touched by the hand of timmy mallet' mix. plus: you got a bonus pin badge for your leather!


magic and loss: the entire album

Petseri wrote:Does the special include Kate and Steve Hackett doing The Angel Gabriel track as well? See my source for the audio.

Yes, it does include The Angel Gabriel. But not with Steve Hackett. Can't vouch for the source of your version but this was just a jokey way of introducing Peter Gabriel on the special, sung by Kate and members of her band.

They did subsequently record an (unreleased) studio version of Another Day but I don't think they recorded The Angel Gabriel with it as that wouldn't make much sense outside of the TV special. As far as I'm aware, Kate hasn't worked with Steve Hackett. Your source may be confusing him with Steve Harley, with whom Kate and Peter staged the Bill Duffield Memorial Concert. That was the first performance of their version of Anbother Day although, again, Harley wasn't involved with that song and The Angel Gabriel wasn't performed.

paint it black wrote:

stufarq wrote:Most depressing song ever?

The Mr Blobby Song.

which mix? all the versions i have are uplifting. especially the 'touched by the hand of timmy mallet' mix. plus: you got a bonus pin badge for your leather!


magic and loss: the entire album

See? The fact that you bought it. That's depressing.

Ahráyeph wrote:JD... with 'The Eternal'. That's just near unbearably depressing...

Word. I agree with Ahráyeph on this... a sad yet beautiful song!
I also love the sweet melancholy of Mazzy Star... and am prone to
throw in the Cure once in a while. BTW -- love the song Apart.
It is not so much a depressing song as it is a 'Let me tell you how I
feel' song...

Anyone remember Pink Floyd's The Wall? It is packed with some
serious downers!

Anyway... most songs I may have once thought depressing were only
made so by the emotions I had attached to them. I am well past that
now and refuse to let the blues get me down!
Besides, most of the best songs are the depressing ones!

DrG wrote:Anyone remember Pink Floyd's The Wall? It is packed with some serious downers!

... and not only that one ...for some time I've definitely hated Pink Floyd for their down-sucking depressiveness ...
but this was a temporary issue.

DrG wrote: Anyway... most songs I may have once thought depressing were only
made so by the emotions I had attached to them. I am well past that
now and refuse to let the blues get me down!
Besides, most of the best songs are the depressing ones!

Exactly. Btw ... for me, the most depressing songs ever are a wide selection of Sisters songs ...

Well, surely not just Dr. Jeep ... ... and anyway, there's much more in most songs than just one emotional impression.

so how many emotional impressions does YCBTO create for you?

so how about: "I've seen the best of men go past
I don't want to be the last
give me something fast " or "I don't exist when you don't see me" ?

@ LouLou: ... to have your flowers (on the razor wire on the wire ...) pressed ...

@ Bartek: (how do you think it came to pass you ...) ... I do exist when you don't see me ...

Aw now, I don't find JD depressing at all. Harrowing at times for sure, but certinaly not depressing.

Ummm - something from The Final Cut perhaps. Fletcher Memorial Home?

I forgot to mention:
Anne Clark:
~Our Darkness
~Weltschmerz
~Killing Time

Marillion
~Chelsea Monday
~Cinderella Search
~The Brave Album

eotunun wrote:I forgot to mention:
Anne Clark:
~Our Darkness
~Weltschmerz
~Killing Time

If I may add for Anne Clark : the 'To Love And Be Loved' album and 'So Quiet Here' and 'Fragility' from the 'The Law Is An Anagram Of Wealth' album. People who've just broken up with someone should NOT listen to the former, as it's so very close to home.

Marillion
~Chelsea Monday
~Cinderella Search
~The Brave Album

Excellent picks there, Jümläut. Even though I'd have to recommend the 'Brave' VHS/DVD instead of the album, as they've omitted 'Made Again' on it to fit the story, which I think was a good idea. I guess the record company needed an 'up' kind of song after the whole depressing concept of abandonment (Runaway, The Hollow Man), incest (The Lap Of Luxury/Now Wash Your Hands, Brave, The Great Escape/The Last Of You/Falling From The Moon), drugs (Goodbye To All That/Wave/Mad/The Opium Den) and the inability to cope with life from early on in general (Living With The Big Lie)...
After all this time, just thinking about this album's concept and the way the songs were conceived makes my stomach turn with unease and while it is a beautifully crafted album - one of if not the best of the whole Hogarth era Marillion - I can still only stand to listen to it about once a year because it is just too intense for me to come to grips with.

I'm sure the Marillion haters that abound here will have many negative things to say about them, but Jüm's right : that album is just the epitome of depression put to music.

Another album where depression is put to music is the most recent Sophia album 'There Are No Goodbyes'. As if the other Sophia albums weren't bleak enough, this one is bleaker in the sense that even the up tempo - and at first glance upbeat - songs have lyrics that leave you bewildered as if being hit by a hammer. Even though I don't feel there's any song lesser than the other, my personal favourites are 'Dreaming', 'Heartache' (with the immensely beautiful line 'And the baby birds are singing as the world rustles from its sleep' while the melancholy drips off the orchestral arrangement behind it) and the final songs 'Leaving' (which has a fever like tension) and 'Portugal' (ever hear a man sing 'I decided today I'm gonna be a better person/No it's never too late to change' and not believe it with that intensity this side of Ian Curtis? Enter Robin Proper-Sheppard).

While we're on the subject of Robin, his former noise band The God Machine had a killer depression anthem as well : 'Pictures Of A Bleeding Boy'. This song is still my personal benchmark when it comes to attaining a certain level of musicianship because it has everything I consider to be the perfect song. That in itself is enough to get me depressed whenever I hear it. Which is quite often, really...

And lest I forget : Alice In Chains's 'Dirt', while being heavy as feck, is more depressing than anything Cobain ever put to tape in the name of Grunge : 'Rain When I Die', 'Rooster' Angry Chair', Down In A Hole', Would?'; that's only half the album...

By the way, the next Ahráyeph album will most likely by the darkest, bleakest and most depressed thing I've ever done, so who knows; I might make it into this thread by some time next year...

and



but in hindsight


:

stufarq wrote:

paint it black wrote:

stufarq wrote:Most depressing song ever?

The Mr Blobby Song.

which mix? all the versions i have are uplifting. especially the 'touched by the hand of timmy mallet' mix. plus: you got a bonus pin badge for your leather!


magic and loss: the entire album

See? The fact that you bought it. That's depressing.

it was free, along with jive bunny and loads of other cool stuff the record shop used to give me

Yet another list of the morbidly/beautifully depressing and introspective:

The Cure - Disintegration, Faith, anything from Pornography

Jesu - Friends are Evil, Tired of Me

Peter Gabriel - Mercy Street, Blood of Eden, Don't Give Up, Here Comes the Flood

Katatonia - pretty much anything, especially the albums "Brave Murder Day" and "Discouraged Ones"

Joy Division - Closer

For Against - December

diSEMBOWELMENT - Transcendence into the Peripheral

Lycia - Wide Open Spaces, probably quite a few more songs too

October Tide - Rain Without End

Red House Painters - Medicine Bottle, Katy Song, Grace Cathedral Park,....

Sisters - Marian, Some Kind of Stranger, Driven Like the Snow, Torch, Emma, Under the Gun

The Smiths - Asleep, Unlovable, This Night has Opened My Eyes, Suffer Little Children, There is a light that never goes out, Well I Wonder, That Joke isn't Funny Anymore

This Empty Flow - Useless

The Verve - The Drugs don't Work

The Angelic Process - The Resonance of Goodbye, We all Die Laughing

Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

Khanate - Capture & Release

New Order - In a Lonely Place, Ceremony, Lonesome Tonight, Doubts Even Here


...and there ya go.

AdrenaChris wrote:Yet another list of the morbidly/beautifully depressing and introspective:

The Cure - Disintegration, Faith, anything from Pornography

Jesu - Friends are Evil, Tired of Me

Peter Gabriel - Mercy Street, Blood of Eden, Don't Give Up, Here Comes the Flood

Katatonia - pretty much anything, especially the albums "Brave Murder Day" and "Discouraged Ones"

Joy Division - Closer

For Against - December

diSEMBOWELMENT - Transcendence into the Peripheral

Lycia - Wide Open Spaces, probably quite a few more songs too

October Tide - Rain Without End

Red House Painters - Medicine Bottle, Katy Song, Grace Cathedral Park,....

Sisters - Marian, Some Kind of Stranger, Driven Like the Snow, Torch, Emma, Under the Gun

The Smiths - Asleep, Unlovable, This Night has Opened My Eyes, Suffer Little Children, There is a light that never goes out, Well I Wonder, That Joke isn't Funny Anymore

This Empty Flow - Useless

The Verve - The Drugs don't Work

The Angelic Process - The Resonance of Goodbye, We all Die Laughing

Burzum - Hvis Lyset Tar Oss

Khanate - Capture & Release

New Order - In a Lonely Place, Ceremony, Lonesome Tonight, Doubts Even Here


...and there ya go.

Nah... that's just goth bollox

now this is proper depressing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRMz8fKkG2g

much as i love the song...

new order - 1963

LouLou wrote:much as i love the song...

new order - 1963

goth bollox! I forgot that one, its a real gem

i agree that hvis lyset tar oss is by no means the most uplifting of tunes, but for me dunkelheit ranks higher on the depressiveness scale - particularly when you listen to it on loop for a few days...

anything by the cheeky girls tends to be pretty depressing too btw

Ahráyeph wrote: And lest I forget : Alice In Chains's 'Dirt', while being heavy as feck, is more depressing than anything Cobain ever put to tape in the name of Grunge : 'Rain When I Die', 'Rooster' Angry Chair', Down In A Hole', Would?'; that's only half the album...

Oooooh yeah heavy as f**k and one of the best grunge outputs I ever bought IMO! (says the one that has almost all Nirvana releases)



IZ.

AdrenaChris wrote:The Cure - Disintegration

I always felt of that song as rather soothing, actually. For the thought of "The further I get from the things I care about, the less I care about how much further away I get" is an optimistical one. After a painfull loss, for example.
Not chipper, but a spark of light in a very black mood.
May I editingly add that this quote from that song is the most important to me of all The Cure lyrics?

eotunun wrote:

AdrenaChris wrote:The Cure - Disintegration

I always felt of that song as rather soothing, actually. For the thought of "The further I get from the things I care about, the less I care about how much further away I get" is an optimistical one. After a painfull loss, for example.
Not chipper, but a spark of light in a very black mood.
May I editingly add that this quote from that song is the most important to me of all The Cure lyrics?

Well, I suppose this is a 'poster child' moment for the fact that lyrics can be evocative of very different things to different people.

For a person who actually suffers from depression, that line is anything but soothing. It describes the process by which you cease to care about everything that ever mattered to you - everything that ever gave you pleasure, as well as the things that gave you pain - until you don't even care about whether you live or die.

7anthea7 wrote:

eotunun wrote:

AdrenaChris wrote:The Cure - Disintegration

I always felt of that song as rather soothing, actually. For the thought of "The further I get from the things I care about, the less I care about how much further away I get" is an optimistical one. After a painfull loss, for example.
Not chipper, but a spark of light in a very black mood.
May I editingly add that this quote from that song is the most important to me of all The Cure lyrics?

Well, I suppose this is a 'poster child' moment for the fact that lyrics can be evocative of very different things to different people.

For a person who actually suffers from depression, that line is anything but soothing. It describes the process by which you cease to care about everything that ever mattered to you - everything that ever gave you pleasure, as well as the things that gave you pain - until you don't even care about whether you live or die.

Very well put, Anthea...

Body and Soul. Such a let down after Temple of Love...

Ahráyeph wrote:

7anthea7 wrote:

eotunun wrote: I always felt of that song as rather soothing, actually. For the thought of "The further I get from the things I care about, the less I care about how much further away I get" is an optimistical one. After a painfull loss, for example.
Not chipper, but a spark of light in a very black mood.
May I editingly add that this quote from that song is the most important to me of all The Cure lyrics?

Well, I suppose this is a 'poster child' moment for the fact that lyrics can be evocative of very different things to different people.

For a person who actually suffers from depression, that line is anything but soothing. It describes the process by which you cease to care about everything that ever mattered to you - everything that ever gave you pleasure, as well as the things that gave you pain - until you don't even care about whether you live or die.

Very well put, Anthea...

..and basically, I agree.

On that other hand is the point:
There is that something that you just can't hold, that may be the fundament of your entire little world, but it simply falls to dust. The very source of your picture of how the world works and where there's shelter and all. Your home and your parents, for example. (read: My home, my parents, or in the order of father-mother-home) to begin with.
If you never learn to let the impact of those personal disasters fade in the distance, in other words care less about moving away from the actual time and space where those were around, you'll never get over the loss, you'll never live on. That's why I think of that line as an optimistical one. A very sad one, nonetheles, but a one that at a second thought has a spark of good in it.

Janice Jopplin wrote:Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose

So when all is lost, freedom is gained.
A twisted idea, I know.

as is building an bass geetar

it would seem