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Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 22:38
by vicus
stufarq wrote:[...] I've also seen tours named Silence Is Platinum and Armageddon (I'd have to look them up to see which they supposedly were) as well as Trans Europe Excess used for two entirely different tours in different years.
Armageddon was 1985:
Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 23:04
by paint it black
stufarq wrote:There seem to be several different versions of the "correct" names though. For instance, the official site doesn't give Black October a name at all (although it does differentiate between the October and November tours) and I've also seen tours named Silence Is Platinum and Armageddon (I'd have to look them up to see which they supposedly were) as well as Trans Europe Excess used for two entirely different tours in different years.
The official line is
Armageddon will be held indoors this year : tune in, turn on, burn out!
or
Silence is platinum: : tune in, turn on, burn out!
tune... being the name of the tour (as is well recorded by my various source materials)
* edit to add, both of these options refer only to the UK dates. The European tour was Trans Europe Excess, as is always the case
Posted: 29 Jun 2009, 23:14
by Heartless
Being645 wrote: I slightly remember Alan Bangs introducing FALAA in German radio ...
Alan never dared to introduce The Sissies to his Rockpalast show though, that says enough... or Eldritch didn't want to be seen on Television
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 01:10
by stufarq
vicus wrote:Armageddon was 1985:
Yeah, that rings a bell.
paint it black wrote:The official line is
Armageddon will be held indoors this year : tune in, turn on, burn out!
or
Silence is platinum: : tune in, turn on, burn out!
tune... being the name of the tour (as is well recorded by my various source materials)
* edit to add, both of these options refer only to the UK dates. The European tour was Trans Europe Excess, as is always the case
Except that
vicus's post clearly shows Armageddon (without the Tune In... tagline) being used on a German poster. From memory, I think they've been listed as different 1985 tours. And I think I've seen Trans Europe listed as variously 1985 and 1983.
And the official line (ie the website) doesn't use Black October, which we also have evidence of in an above post.
Edit: Just tracked down the various gigographies I've saved from different web sources. Unfortunately I didn't keep any record of what came from where:
I have one that lists Trans Euro as August 1983, which agrees with the official site;
another that breaks 1985 up into Tune In... (UK Mar-Apr) and Trans Euro (Europe Apr-May) and also has May-Jun 1984 listed as the Body & Soul tour (leading up to the single being released at the end of the tour);
another that lists Armageddon as Apr-Jun 1985 (and puts Trans Euro in 1983);
and another that has Trans Euro in 1983, Walk Away in Nov 1984 (following Black October) and again Armageddon Apr-Jun 1985 (after Tune In).
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 08:44
by paint it black
I didn't have access to the various web sources you have; only the official tour itineraries, and word of mouth from people who were in the crew at the time, or lived with 'the band'. So no doubt you're right and i'll retract my observations.
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 12:54
by Being645
Heartless wrote:Being645 wrote: I slightly remember Alan Bangs introducing FALAA in German radio ...
Alan never dared to introduce The Sissies to his Rockpalast show though, that says enough... or Eldritch didn't want to be seen on Television
... only that introduction said enough ... Rockpalast? No way!
Nevertheless, I bought a FALAA vinyl afterwards - in defiance ...
...
Posted: 30 Jun 2009, 20:23
by stufarq
paint it black wrote:I didn't have access to the various web sources you have; only the official tour itineraries, and word of mouth from people who were in the crew at the time, or lived with 'the band'. So no doubt you're right and i'll retract my observations.
No, I'm not saying I'm right and you're wrong. I'm saying that there are lots of different and sometimes conflicting lists of the tours' correct names. Unfortunately, the Black October and Armageddon ads suggest that the official site isn't totally reliable in this case (presumably due to faulty memory or a warped sense of humour) so it's hard to know what really is correct. More documentation like the ads we've seen so far would help - if any exists.