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After a quick bit of detective work, could the 'CP' on the dead-wax be the initials for Carlton Productions? An irish pressing plant in dublin.

http://www.irishrock.org/labels/emi.html

"The second Irish record plant was Carlton Productions, opened in the John F. Kennedy estate off the Naas in Dublin circa 1966. Carlton was the first plant in Ireland able to press stereo LPs. "

"EMI's Dublin plant opened in 1976. It accepted orders for very low runs, as low as 250. Most UK indie label releases from this period with "manufactured in Ireland" on the label were pressed at this plant. The Dublin plant was closed in 1979-1980 as it was not a commerical success. This left Carlton with a monopoly until it's closure ca 1990. Carlton's minimum order size was 1000. "

This is very exciting if true!

I've emailed the guy behind that website with regards to the pressing plant to see if it can be connected to the initials on the runout, or for any other info in general regarding this. Will post his reply if/when it comes. Makes you wonder, could there possibly be any other irish pressings out there? A Falaa?

There were quite a few local releases pressed in Ireland, yes. I've a Body and Soul in a similar plain paper sleeve that I'd always assumed was a bootleg, but now I must double-check.

Let us know what the runouts are if you can! Any photos?

*MT* would indicate Musitech from buckinghamshire as pressing plant, whomwere active in the 80ies, so this being a uk re-release might be also a serious option

If it's a uk rerelease surely there would be a much higher probability they would have beebn come across by now? Strange coincidence with it and the one in the original post.

Taylor: do you have a photo of your copy?

sorry not but same of yours, its in depth a irish pressing

Received this:

"Right, thanks. If you can send me a scan of the label (not in the ebay advert anymore), I'll can probably confirm if the label was printed in Ireland aswell, which in turn would confirm it was an Irish pressing, Are there are variations with the UK label? But yes, it looks to me like an Irish pressing, CP is indeed Carlton. Carlton was the last Irish pressing plant to close circa 1990. The other big one was EMI. Many UK releases were pressed in Ireland, especially small label releases. SOme of these carry a Made In Ireland text on the label but many do not - including major label pressings done for the Irish market.
Send that label scan if you can and I;ll get back to you.
Regards
Eamonn"

Will keep updated.

An Irish pressing eh? Pretty cool news. What else lies undiscovered?

Memnarch wrote:Let us know what the runouts are if you can! Any photos?

Will do. It's back at my parents house so I probably won't get to it until weekend after next though.

OK, just checked it out. ROGI is just the catalogue number and "MT". Labels are absolutely standard, including standard font. Probably just a regular repressing. I can post photos if anyone's still interested.

No worries. Being642... how about a wiki update maybe?

Done ... ... see:

http://sisterswiki.org/Walk_Away_%28single%29#Releases - integrated into the list

http://sisterswiki.org/Walk_Away_%28sin ... rain_Flexi - Special Details

For pictures scroll further down ... ...


... good research, Memnarch!

Thanks!

On a side, I went down to a local punk/new wave collector and record expert today who has a stall at my local market here in Belfast and they said the same thing, it's more than likely Irish, and that that specific font and layout was used throughout ALOT of Irish pressed records, for some reason they ahd a thing for changing the default fonts from the usual presses etc.... Not that that really qualifies anything any further, but just for a second opinion and all that

BTW, when I get access to a scanner I'll get you better pictures of the labels! I put my foot through mine a year ago, and well, it doesn;t work anymore surprise surprise

growing up in Dublin, I was use to seeing records pressed up as made in Ireland & probably have a few in the collection. For some reason, roxy & bryan ferry releases stick in my mind. They did tend to have different labels too. Funnily enough, I never thought of them as collectable - as I'd be getting excited about German, Spanish pressing etc. Just goes to show, as I'm sure there's a saying somewhere, you sometimes don't appreciate what's under your nose.

I came across this, if you're interested? Not much detail & lists are clearly incomplete, and some cover art shown might make your eyes hurt...

http://www.irishrock.org/labels/emi.html

Yeah seen that. On a side, the seller I bought this from sold an Irish Siouxsie - Dear prudence 7" for 30 quid last week, again no recollection of it online but I know there were irish pressings of other siouxsie singles for a fact

Most of my old Siouxsies are Irish pressings; definitely not worth 30 quid - one or two quid from a bargain bin I would have thought.