RIP anyway to a great man. As an entertainer I thought he was pants but what he did for charity etc was absolutely incredible.
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Ah yes, a typically level-headed and unbiased article from Icke there. Not a single sweeping generalisation or unsubstantiated allegation in sight and plenty od dead people who won't be able to sue him. Who'd hve thought, watching Saturday Superstore all those years ago, that the nice sports presenter would turn out to be such an utter wacko?James Blast wrote:David Icke was a big fan - http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/5553 ... -1926-2011
Louis Theroux wrote:He was a complete one-off. Wrestler, charity fundraiser, deejay, fixer, prankster, and professional enigma.
He was also a plainspoken Yorkshire philosopher and psychologist.
There won’t be another one like him.
http://louistheroux.com/blog/?p=63
AgreedDeWinter wrote:I do love pedophile rumour-mongering. It's a bit like accusing someone of being a witch a few hundred years back. No evidence required and the mud always sticks.
If he did have interests that way, there's no evidence he ever acted on it, and considering how long he's been around you'd think some evidence would have come up that was a bit more concrete.
Indeed. It's not illegal to be weird, which is a good thing!stufarq wrote:... he just generally seemed a bit weird. That's a far cry from labelling him anything libellous or labelling Icke anything approaching sensible.
To me it seems to be a commonly spread way of slandering anyone in the English speaking world. In Germany, you would hardly ever hear such accusations - appart form pupils towards their teacher, or like within families, or religious or child raising instituions, but never towards anyone in the media. So, it really seems advisable to take some gloves on, before assessing such "information".markfiend wrote:AgreedDeWinter wrote:I do love pedophile rumour-mongering. It's a bit like accusing someone of being a witch a few hundred years back. No evidence required and the mud always sticks.
If he did have interests that way, there's no evidence he ever acted on it, and considering how long he's been around you'd think some evidence would have come up that was a bit more concrete.
Interesting. It had never occurred to me before that this sort of thing wouldn't be common wherever media existed that could exploit it to make money. After all, paparazzi exist the world over. Nice to know there are some countries that still report the news rather than making up gossip.Being645 wrote:[To me it seems to be a commonly spread way of slandering anyone in the English speaking world. In Germany, you would hardly ever hear such accusations - appart form pupils towards their teacher, or like within families, or religious or child raising instituions, but never towards anyone in the media. So, it really seems advisable to take some gloves on, before assessing such "information".
Oh, the media here are not perfect, and there are plenty "nasty" papers as well. Also, they do, of course, report if stuff like that happens to be a topic for international media, such as the case around Michael Jackson ... but still, mostly they are not so extremely gossiping in a nasty way as they seem to be in Britain or America ... for a German person this implies that one has to get used to such mannerisms, and it might take some time before one finds the right degree of say, attacking on a "personal" level in debates as much as in joking ...stufarq wrote:Interesting. It had never occurred to me before that this sort of thing wouldn't be common wherever media existed that could exploit it to make money. After all, paparazzi exist the world over. Nice to know there are some countries that still report the news rather than making up gossip.Being645 wrote:[To me it seems to be a commonly spread way of slandering anyone in the English speaking world. In Germany, you would hardly ever hear such accusations - appart form pupils towards their teacher, or like within families, or religious or child raising instituions, but never towards anyone in the media. So, it really seems advisable to take some gloves on, before assessing such "information".
DeWinter wrote:Well, it does have it's plus points. The UK is never likely to have a Chirac, Berlusconi, Bush or Clinton thanks to the press here. Their propensity for dirt-digging would have rendered them unelectable.
Oh, in that direction the German media are no better ... at least a good part of them ...DeWinter wrote: On the other hand, the British press has done a great job of convincing everyone in the UK that behind every tree is a child molesting, benefit dependent, Islamofacist bogus asylum seeker with a copy of the Human Rights Act in his back pocket.
Ironically it seems that those who *want* to be politician are those least suited to actually be one.markfiend wrote:On the gripping hand, it also means that the only people who ever can get elected are those who decided to become career politicians while still at college. The NUS leadership has been little better than a feeder for the Labour party at least since the early 90's.
buried at an angle of 45 degrees? andThe cortege went to Woodlands Cemetery where he was buried at an angle of 45 degrees facing the sea.
encased in concrete?Sir Jimmy Savile's coffin has been encased in concrete as a "security measure" amid speculation about its contents.
the lost king of yorkshireDan wrote:45 degrees?? And concrete?? That's going to give the archaeologists in 2000 years something to wonder about. And with all the jingle jangle jewellery they'll assume he was a king.
Hear hear.Dan wrote:Ironically it seems that those who *want* to be politician are those least suited to actually be one.markfiend wrote:On the gripping hand, it also means that the only people who ever can get elected are those who decided to become career politicians while still at college. The NUS leadership has been little better than a feeder for the Labour party at least since the early 90's.
As long as it 'upwards' it's fine by meQuiff Boy wrote:
buried at an angle of 45 degrees? and
So we don't get anyone with a colourful past but we do get Thatcher, Blair, Brown...DeWinter wrote:Well, it does have it's plus points. The UK is never likely to have a Chirac, Berlusconi, Bush or Clinton thanks to the press here. Their propensity for dirt-digging would have rendered them unelectable.
Presumably to stop grave robbers checking for bling.Quiff Boy wrote:encased in concrete?Sir Jimmy Savile's coffin has been encased in concrete as a "security measure" amid speculation about its contents.
wtf? does anyone else find this to be an increasingly bizarre funeral/burial?![]()
I think "colourful" is a polite way to describe the above! Sleazy at best, criminal at worst. Neither Thatcher or Brown could be accused of that, whatever you think of their politics.stufarq wrote:So we don't get anyone with a colourful past but we do get Thatcher, Blair, Brown...DeWinter wrote:Well, it does have it's plus points. The UK is never likely to have a Chirac, Berlusconi, Bush or Clinton thanks to the press here. Their propensity for dirt-digging would have rendered them unelectable.