Prescott wrote:Being645 wrote:markfiend wrote:... After so long, there's just no way that anyone could live up to the expectations.
IMHO, that's just a frustrating illusion.
Expectations are as diverse as listeners ... so they can never be met in absolute terms ... and have never, as we all know ...
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Though, now, that I think of
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and the very nature of encounters with The Sisters of Mercy decades ago,
it seems to me that creating a collective disappointment in an extent as we are encountering for almost twenty years
must have fulfilled his bastard dreams (...
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Of course, sometimes (for a transitory moment in time) it might feel not so pleasing to get what one wanted ...
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This is described exactly in the lyrics of Gary Marx's song "Idiot Nation" from "Nineteen Ninety Five and Nowhere". I'm growing more convinced every year that he was intentionally trying to sabotage the Sisters at one point. Maybe since then he has some regrets about it all?
I wouldn't say it like that (for I'm just another person, and I don't know
1995 And Nowhere). For me it's more like that sometimes,
the only way to keep one's autonomy and fend off manipulators (a very harmless term in this context, but I just can't find a better one now)
seems to be the destruction of their concern within oneself, i.e. in Von's case The Sisters (well not only and not even The Sisters themselves
but the, say secondary benefits which were - in the view of said manipulators - possibly yieldable from the band as much as from him as a person).
This strategy of destruction doesn't get one what one needs, but at least, "they" won't get it either and will (very likely) eventually lose
interest as there is nothing more to yield and squeeze ... so when "they" are gone, one might have a chance to (re-)create one's self.
IMHO, sabotaging not to mention destroying The Sisters has not been the goal, but counteracting an overload of outside interference.
Prescott wrote:
I also think that 1998 was pivotal. The catch phrases were "Event Horizon"
and "Seven Shades of Shiva Rising".
Shiva creates from destruction. Maybe the planned destruction of the Sisters, to give birth to a new Sisters, didn't go so well? Or as planned?
He then went "To the Planet Edge" (the ends of the earth) in search of a proper vehicle for the Sisters rebirth, then "Tripped the Light Fantastic" to prove they had record company friendly songs like "Crash and Burn" which summed up the state of the band, still record label-less in 2000 pretty well; only to feel as if the Sisters had been "Exxiled on Euphoria" in the end, for their 20th anniversary in 2001.
I've always felt the tour names were very significant, especially beginning in 1998.
A loveable theory, Prescott ...
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which would be supported by the definition of an event horizon like ...
Wikipedia wrote:In general relativity,
an event horizon is a boundary in spacetime beyond which events cannot affect an outside observer. In layman's terms it is defined as "the point of no return" i.e. the point at which the gravitational pull becomes so great as to make escape impossible. The most common case of an event horizon is that surrounding a black hole. Light emitted from beyond the horizon can never reach the observer. Likewise, any object approaching the horizon from the observer's side appears to slow down and never quite pass through the horizon, with its image becoming more and more redshifted as time elapses. The traveling object, however, experiences no strange effects and does, in fact, pass through the horizon in a finite amount of proper time.
And didn't Von do the background music for
this film titled Event Horizon just around the time of that tour? ...
One could draw similarities between both the film and the explanation of the term with the situation of Von and The Sisters ...
Only things did never happen in space and had a different consistence as to their details, dynamics and reasons ...
though the dynamics of things seemed to seem to Von as unadvertable as a natural law ...
which it was not, but avoiding and getting it to a halt would have afforded taking steps, the possible results of which would have
been as decisive as unforeseeable within the ever more heavily discoloured b/w-environment one perceives as pressures increase ...
apart from already existing and very real committments of the band regards touring on the other hand ...
And what hope/dream did ever come true in a lifetime of decades? High risk and plenty costly contrary encounters in store already ...
plus given which was in my perception always the decided top priority of Von, to take and tackle the life one has to live, which in Von's
case consists of The Sisters, and of drawing happiness from whatever that would imply and from everything that would come along
that way ... or in other words:
the way, the way ... and taking what the outside brings as a result of one's expression ...
the good,
the bad and the ugly ... and the
never no turning back ... as this is unnecessary in view of the ever further upcoming progression
of a present and a future ... a straightly existentialist approach, maybe taken a bit too far, I'd say.
Anyway, I've always begged to differ ... because it never worked for me ... always ended in the same unsatisfactory sort of situation,
i.e. in failing and never in fulfilment, because I'm a creature too unique and alone in this world, too far between in my various approaches,
none of which I can develop to a viable extent without an appropriate mirror, challenge, measure and support, all of which I've hardly ever
had. Ha, and that in this ever more capitalist world ... which, for two decades and still, is finding pride in and taking resort to overcoming
the few small merits
civilization has achieved...
That gets me back to somewhere up in this thread ... (partial) self-destruction in order to secure and protect one's autonomy. It does work.
But it's a looong way, and one has to be aware of the moment when the road is free and tackle the change. If one still can, because there
has, in effect, been a lifetime filled with contrary behaviour to some extent (and, of course, with further powerplaying from the outside).
This does present one with the difficulty of how to lay down the hard lines and how to change the meanwhile inhabited manners* of ignoring
the basic impulses and personal capacities one had laid aside in order to mimicry some (unexploitable) dumbness or destroyedness ...
or to use a picture:
If you have put strings around your legs and arms and been wearing them for years, your body gotta get used to the freedom
when you take them off ...
This does - logically - start with the frustrating and painful experience of the stiffness of one's limbs ... and the sudden but very clear
conclusion that, hell, now an effort must be taken in a direction one had forbidden oneself for the sake of defending one's autonomy,
one's very self, and of one's own will which was busy with counteracting and taking revenge on incompetent "masters" and teachers
in order to kill the pain, the pain, the pain ... the pain caused beyond one's choice and exerted upon one's (in my case physical) body
completely beyond any reason within oneself, thus apparently denying one's entire
subjectness (existence/identity/autonomy) by/and
turning one into a mere object of whatever use decided by it's owner/user ... but after all, one does it all to oneself by giving in to frustration ...
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* giving "those fuckers" the person they want (or want to see) is another pretty means of the above described (partial) self-destruction,
in that case by giving ground completely which will also lead to the result that "they" won't get what "they" might hope for but rather receive
what "they"'ve given. Either way, one has left one's autonomy behind, in lack of any other way of effective protection and/or development.
For me,
First And Last And Always has tackled, among other things, these issues quite well ... including the notion that whatever they do to you,
you gotta forgive yourself that they could do it ... It's got nothing to do with your capacities, with your value, with - yourself. It doesn't change the
least. Go on, express yourself, fight for your dreams and needs ... there is only one you you are ... and you should know and cherish yourself.
Of course, there is never a guarantee, that anybody else will ever do, but that way, you have at least yourself. And - unlike if you don't - there is
no more guarantee that nobody will ever see you. Wonderful. Only one point is missing (though on FALAA, expressed as explicitely as never before):
Without a wholesome and reliable basis, nobody can get anywhere.
Regards The Sisters - the band have always been the basis for Von, and in their current line-up they have taken the challenge.
Of course, it takes more than a band, but after decades of successful counteracting destruction by (self-)destruction crawling
along on the carpet "they"'ve woven in revenche as much as in resistence, it
is a fundamental improvement to form and be in
a band with strong enough individuals of sorts. It has taken some time and effort to get there and it has taken some time to
realise it, but
we've seen the results within the improvements during the whole of their latest tour ...
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Prescott wrote:
So where is Shiva? And Shiva's Rainbow? Where's the promise after the flood?
It's here. It's always been there. A promise? Isn't a promise just marking the extent of a(n impossible) guarantee ...
You can't get the taste and content of a fruit, if you won't pick (or buy) and eat it, however promising its appearance
might seem. A flood? What flood, Alice?
* Hell, this short essay on my dream theories of trauma patient strategies should do for another (hopefully very) long time ...
My thanks and recognition to those who might appreciate and my apologies and recognition to those who might not ...
And sorry anyway for my bad punctuation. Corrections are always welcome.