Heartland

to me her image/video/glamour is part of the fun

But she does have a good voice and can write great songs (although not all songs are good imo)

radiojamaica wrote:to me her image/video/glamour is part of the fun

Pffft. Nowhere near dark enough for me...

I hated her album on first hearing. Now I couldn't live without it.

I'm thinking that some on here may dig this wot I made - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMZMEnhM4hg

Y'all gonna hate me on here but I'm currently experimenting with a Sisters of Mercy/Lana Del Rey mashup (I got some ideas from early in this thread).
It'll probably end up being comprised of Marian / Born to Die but at this stage anything could happen.

Apologies in advance

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i don't know where lies source of success of that dull, repetitive, redundand, so extremely non-innovative music these days, but if i knew that i'd glad to make to money on that.

Bartek wrote:i don't know where lies source of success of that dull, repetitive, redundand, so extremely non-innovative music these days, but if i knew that i'd glad to make to money on that.

It's called the "lowest common denominator," Sir. And it's comprised of roughly 98% of the population (ok, I'm probably a bit off there, but not by much! ).

Maybe to use this version of Born to Die ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5SkSwvMkj0

SINsister wrote:

Bartek wrote:i don't know where lies source of success of that dull, repetitive, redundand, so extremely non-innovative music these days, but if i knew that i'd glad to make to money on that.

It's called the "lowest common denominator," Sir. And it's comprised of roughly 98% of the population (ok, I'm probably a bit off there, but not by much! ).

My GADsir. I dont think I've ever felt so pleased to be part of that 98%

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orchoid wrote:

SINsister wrote:

Bartek wrote:i don't know where lies source of success of that dull, repetitive, redundand, so extremely non-innovative music these days, but if i knew that i'd glad to make to money on that.

It's called the "lowest common denominator," Sir. And it's comprised of roughly 98% of the population (ok, I'm probably a bit off there, but not by much! ).

My GADsir. I dont think I've ever felt so pleased to be part of that 98%

1. Ummm...that's "Ms." or "Mademoiselle" to you.

b. Somehow, I think I feel sorry for you. Not sure...

Back in time wrote:Maybe to use this version of Born to Die ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5SkSwvMkj0

Thanks. I quite like that version but what I like about experimenting with mashups is the juxtaposing of tracks of almost 'opposing' genres. Thats where the real fun lies

SINsister wrote:
1. Ummm...that's "Ms." or "Mademoiselle" to you.

b. Somehow, I think I feel sorry for you. Not sure...

I do like a woman who knows her own mind.

Yup. I'm certain I've never felt so glad to be part of that "98%"

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orchoid wrote:I do like a woman who knows her own mind.

Yup. I'm certain I've never felt so glad to be part of that "98%"

...and no one knows my mind like I do.

I'm always glad to not be a part of it, myself. Couldn't be if I tried, though, so... *Shrug*

orchoid wrote:

Back in time wrote:Maybe to use this version of Born to Die ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5SkSwvMkj0

Thanks. I quite like that version but what I like about experimenting with mashups is the juxtaposing of tracks of almost 'opposing' genres. Thats where the real fun lies

I kind of expected this answer, but still, the cover is great.

SINsister wrote:

Bartek wrote:i don't know where lies source of success of that dull, repetitive, redundand, so extremely non-innovative music these days, but if i knew that i'd glad to make to money on that.

It's called the "lowest common denominator," Sir. And it's comprised of roughly 98% of the population (ok, I'm probably a bit off there, but not by much! ).

Yawn...

orchoid wrote: Wow. A slight case of over-thinking. Sounds like the typical over wordy s**t spouted out by some arsey pseudo intellectual muso journalist that doesn't actually feel music at all (so that's pretty much ALL of them).

If I dig a sound, I just dig it. Simple as that really.

haha - postmodernism shmostodernism

Strongly agree.

^ @Koen My sentiments exactly

Her music is refreshing and a whole lot better than the pile of sh*t wank 'music' that's been coming out of the music industry for a long time. Normally I don't care for 98% of female vocals but her vintage style (which is partly my style), great lyrics (which I can not all, but mostly relate to) are blended as romantic, sad, dark, bit naughty and happy. Her voice is beautiful and different - all this is what makes her so refreshing.

If you don't like it, there's always an off button

Back in time wrote: I kind of expected this answer, but still, the cover is great.

I agree, I love that version

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radiojamaica wrote: Yawn...

Absoblumminlutely

Sweetcheeks wrote:

orchoid wrote: Wow. A slight case of over-thinking. Sounds like the typical over wordy s**t spouted out by some arsey pseudo intellectual muso journalist that doesn't actually feel music at all (so that's pretty much ALL of them).

If I dig a sound, I just dig it. Simple as that really.

haha - postmodernism shmostodernism

Strongly agree.

^ @Koen My sentiments exactly

Her music is refreshing and a whole lot better than the pile of sh*t wank 'music' that's been coming out of the music industry for a long time. Normally I don't care for 98% of female vocals but her vintage style (which is partly my style), great lyrics (which I can not all, but mostly relate to) are blended as romantic, sad, dark, bit naughty and happy. Her voice is beautiful and different - all this is what makes her so refreshing.

If you don't like it, there's always an off button

Erm...my "lowest common denominator" response was in reference to Bartek's comment, not to Ms. Del Rey. I agree with your "wank" statement wholeheartedly!

Sweetcheeks wrote: Her music is refreshing and a whole lot better than the pile of sh*t wank 'music' that's been coming out of the music industry for a long time. Normally I don't care for 98% of female vocals but her vintage style (which is partly my style), great lyrics (which I can not all, but mostly relate to) are blended as romantic, sad, dark, bit naughty and happy. Her voice is beautiful and different - all this is what makes her so refreshing.

If you don't like it, there's always an off button

Couldn't have put it better myself. You Rock

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orchoid wrote:I do like a woman who knows her own mind.
Yup. I'm certain I've never felt so glad to be part of that "98%"

SINsister wrote:...and no one knows my mind like I do.
I'm always glad to not be a part of it, myself. Couldn't be if I tried, though, so... *Shrug*

With respect, being glad to not be part of 'it' is pure musical snobbery
and self limitation of what you allow yourself to 'like'.
(I have known sooo many people who hold your kind of views.
I mean, I was in Leeds in the 80's for fcks sake)

Question: Why would anybody 'try' to be part of anything?.
The act of having to 'try' is self deception and negates any reason for knowingly being part of 'anything'.
Example: Like... yeah... I TRIED for YEARS to be a 'part' of your 98%
'lowest common denominator'. Ohhh yes... I sweat BLOOD to be able to appreciate the occasional artist that happened to be 'considered' to be
'mainstream'. WTF?

Personally, I just like the way that in these ohhhh so 'postmodern' times (fckng semantics) there are occasionaly very talented artists that leak through to the 'mainstream'
(be it via 'manufactured authenticity' or whatever other means) that would, in other times, have been thought of as 'underground', 'indie' or 'alternative'.

In the case of Lizzy Grant, she has in fact worked pretty hard at her art before being discovered. She was playing her stuff in NY clubs age 18.
She signed to some minor label too early, then got out of the contract with a lot of financial help from her Father (allegedly).
She wanted to shelve her first ep/album which she wasn't pleased with (I actually love it). She felt she had better material inside her and a better vision.
She reinvented herself. I offer no apology for seeing nothing wrong with an artist reinventing themselves in the slightest. That's entertainment.

So, eventually she gets this substantial 'leg up' into the mainstream market with the aid of some slick marketing team and brilliant Hip Hop producers (yes 'Hip Hop'... deal with it!)

Now, who the fck CARES how she got there, I'm just so really pleased that she DID.
The problem with being heard by the 'masses' is that her work then gets to be heard by the cultural snobs
(oh yes, dont ever doubt it, that's where your fckng snobs hide insidiously) of which there are LEGION! as well you know.

Who fckng CARES if the snobs want to get off on calling it 'manufactured authenticism' 'false personna' (so many words, such little insight)
or whatever the fck else words they want to devise in order to flaunt their ignorance and narrow mindedness.

Aside from everything else, she fcking DESERVES to be heard!

Dont get me wrong. To use your beeeeautifull figure of 98%, I hate with a PASSION around 98% of anything 'considered' to be 'mainstream' 'conventional' or 'the norm' in any way shape or form.[/b]

All is semantics, and all is subjective. Lets just all dig what we dig. Enjoy what we enjoy yeah? yeahhhhhhhhh.
Even if for some sad individuals, it's the concept of 'not ALLOWING themselves to enjoy anything other than what they THINK they SHOULD enjoy' that gives THEM the buzz,
(and GOD FORBID that it should be anything considered to be in any way 'mainstream'). fckng fckwitts.

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orchoid wrote:With respect, being glad to not be part of 'it' is pure musical snobbery
and self limitation of what you allow yourself to 'like'.
(I have known sooo many people who hold your kind of views.
I mean, I was in Leeds in the 80's for fcks sake)

[snipped, sorry]

Ahem. WHOA.

For the record, Sir, I've got Adele, Alex Clare, and Katy Perry in my YooToob playlist/favorites. If you don't mind, please re-read what Bartek said initially, and then re-read my response.

What makes *any* commodity successful in modern-day society? What the mob wants, the mob gets. Do you live in the States, orchoid? We've no "culture" here but the Kartrashians, Honey BooBoo, and artless, pre-fab musical shite like Britney and her ilk.

I love all sorts of music - even some disposable pop nonsense. I'm not a music snob, nor (or so I thought!) have I claimed to be one. I've lived in the U.S. all my life, unfortunately. I feel I've earned the right, therefore, to slam its mindless and indiscriminate commodity consumption, and to laugh my arse off at its zealously-produced, anti-intellectual manufactured entertainment. The vast majority of my fellow Americans finds this crap satisfying and wholly acceptable. I, on the other hand, do not.

An estimated 98% of the world's population possesses an IQ under 130. I apologize for my initial lack of clarity.

Incidentally, orchoid, I'm definitely not a music snob. I *am*, however, a snotty, elitist intellectual. Biiiiig difference.

Now, you can lambaste me all you want for that, Sir. Bring it.

Damn, i guess that somehow i should feel sorry for that, because it started from my statement/opinion/post about LDR's music, but on the other hand i don't - The Net. I don't even feel obliged to respond (in fact defend myself) orchoid's post, since as i see it would be pointless because of clear emotion standing by this and soft spot on LDR's music.
peace and love. we don't have to read same books or listen to same music to talk to each other (?)

Hold up. Let's not go at eachothers throats on this subject. It all comes down to eachother's own likes, so no need to bash anyone for it,
innit?

SINsister wrote: We've no "culture" here but the Kartrashians, Honey BooBoo, and artless, pre-fab musical shite like Britney and her ilk.

This is the pile of s**t wank I was referring to This is what is so wrong with the American (and where I am) Canadian music industry.
What's so great about the UK music industry is at least you get the whole goth, indie and Rock genres with GOOD bands.
Tons of bands in the UK/Europe which you would never hear about in America/Canada or if heard of, is not even remotely popular. Sad s**t

Bartek wrote:we don't have to read same books or listen to same music to talk to each other (?)

I didn't think so..?

Apparently.
But I want to live in this Utopia, can I?