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There's also this: https://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=24185

My German is rusty, and I only bothered to work through the Chris Catalyst box, but the upshot is:

Far Parade has become quite spectacular; though you can't put Von on a schedule (if I'm reading that part right).

Still is a combination of a new riff from Chris and an old riff Andrew has had kicking around for a while.

Arms has been recorded with Lisa Cuthbert providing backing vocals, and the chorus was an attempt to create something both anthemic and suited to the Sisters. Perhaps someday it will be heard.

Thanks for that, @Sultan. Whilst confessing to using old riffs, I'm surprised that he didn't admit that Arms is basically Flood II - probably thinking about the future royalties

It's this I'd be more worried about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1jvrvdQMt8

A slight case of Come as you Arms?

mh wrote:It's this I'd be more worried about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1jvrvdQMt8

A slight case of Come as you Arms?

I see what you did there. But surely that kind of gated riff goes even further back, to the early days of thrash in the Eighties (no pun intended !). BTW that KJ album was amazing, easily one of their best three (along with KJ and extremities, Dirt etc). No wonder I'm such a fan of Arms (preferably sans Lisa).

Thank you sultan2075

Any guesses on the tempo of this song, judging by the lyrics? I get a feeling it could be a bit similar to Under the Gun in rhythm. But I'm no musician and lack talent to see such things.

I*really* want to hear it now!!

euphoria wrote:Any guesses on the tempo of this song, judging by the lyrics? I get a feeling it could be a bit similar to Under the Gun in rhythm. But I'm no musician and lack talent to see such things.

I*really* want to hear it now!!

I fear you might be right, but cling on to the hope that it can also be read at Floorshow/Ace of Spades pace.

Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:

euphoria wrote:Any guesses on the tempo of this song, judging by the lyrics? I get a feeling it could be a bit similar to Under the Gun in rhythm. But I'm no musician and lack talent to see such things.

I*really* want to hear it now!!

I fear you might be right, but cling on to the hope that it can also be read at Floorshow/Ace of Spades pace.

Something fast and monotone as Floorshow would be really nice, it is still my favourite Sisters song. However, UTG ist not that bad, so if the song has rhythm and Vons voice is like "sprechgesang" (sorry, I have no idea how to translate this) as in UTG or Ribbons, I'd be happy as well

Authors of music are Ben and Chris, according to interview, so i would not expect any back to the past, mix of whatever previous songs. we wknow what they did so far (Still, Arms and that third, if i remember properly?). besides, AE himself never really did back to the past (last prove: War on Drugs); even that he, obviously, has something that can be call his style.
no expectations here. number of syllables in verse is not a good clue nor evidence to something, imo. if i would look at something, it would be a rhythm of words, verses. but even that can be misleading - words can be put into many different music. but on the other hand, fact that AE can't sing like a proper singer makes helps to narrow that, a bit.

Bartek wrote: no expectations here. number of syllables in verse is not a good clue nor evidence to something, imo. if i would look at something, it would be a rhythm of words, verses. but even that can be misleading - words can be put into many different music. but on the other hand, fact that AE can't sing like a proper singer makes helps to narrow that, a bit.

Good we can use his voice to narrow down possibilities

The rhythm of words seems to be the same in the first verses, except in

And I'm ungood if I can't shout
Without the vowels or the label out
Escorted from my desk
Unable to unheed

which has some refrain feel to it,

and except in all final verses containing "far parade".

Another thing, to the native English speakers - isn't the language in the song a bit archaic, or deliberately old-fashioned? Something to do with 1914?

(I feel I'm so going to regret digging into this tomorrow, but I blame the wine )

I don't know that I'd call it archaic as such. However, Von does like to play with grammar in a way that only the multilingual can.

Has anyone considered this -
In this section of the song:
Decent men and women form a line and dance in time - far parade etc

could the "far parade" be sung as backing, underneath the main vocal line?
With what I imagine the song to sound like, it fits more with the modern incarnation of the sisters sound.

As for vocal rhythm, I do imagine it somewhat to be like UTG. a rant/chant[/u] almost.
I'm thinking it's most definitely going to be played at knobworth. Probably not.

Victim of Circumstance wrote:if the song has rhythm and Vons voice is like "sprechgesang" (sorry, I have no idea how to translate this) as in UTG or Ribbons, I'd be happy as well

The same word is used in English. The literal translation is "speech-singing" but trained singers wouldn't translate it.

more importantly will we ever hear it?!

(After reading that interview and Chris saying that Arms as been recorded - secretly hoping that a ltd edition 7" on Merciful Release of Far Parade b/w Arms is imminent! Never land - never learn more like it!)

So they are actually recording songs? That's quite the news. Is this a real recording or just demo-ish stuff? With backing vocals it suggests it's the real thing.

Hope they release it soon.

@Aazhyd:
i guess that your post can fall into JOTD section.

Aazhyd wrote:So they are actually recording songs? That's quite the news. Is this a real recording or just demo-ish stuff? With backing vocals it suggests it's the real thing.

Hope they release it soon.

Their website says somewhere that they're always recording songs, doesn't it? Not sure any of us really believed it though.

Aazhyd wrote:So they are actually recording songs? That's quite the news. Is this a real recording or just demo-ish stuff? With backing vocals it suggests it's the real thing.

Hope they release it soon.

I guess, it's the real thing indeed. Only question is, whether Eldritch really wants it ... ... ... ...

And there are - of course - reasonable reasons against it ... one of which could be:

Ah, but didn't we have that already? Patricia Morrison, Ofra Haza, Terri Nunn ... And where did it all end? ... *sigh

Que?
what all mentioned 'examples' have with releasing single/EP?
or, what went wrong with collaboration with Ofra and Terri?

I would like to add the correct term for "sprechgesang" that is "recitativo" in general.

For more have a look at general info in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recitative but just as general intro material, there is a lot of ink that is been used in the past for the term in books and more views about that. The Italian word Recitativo is the one that 99,99% uses for that kind of singing and the style in write such things.
Hope that will help someone that likes to search some roots of some things

iesus wrote:I would like to add the correct term for "sprechgesang" that is "recitativo" in general.

For more have a look at general info in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recitative but just as general intro material, there is a lot of ink that is been used in the past for the term in books and more views about that. The Italian word Recitativo is the one that 99,99% uses for that kind of singing and the style in write such things.
Hope that will help someone that likes to search some roots of some things

Nice research ! ... ... You're a sweetheart, iesus ... ...

iesus wrote:I would like to add the correct term for "sprechgesang" that is "recitativo" in general.

For more have a look at general info in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recitative but just as general intro material, there is a lot of ink that is been used in the past for the term in books and more views about that. The Italian word Recitativo is the one that 99,99% uses for that kind of singing and the style in write such things.
Hope that will help someone that likes to search some roots of some things

Great research job, iesus

However, if you don't mind, I'll stick to sprechgesang, then

Thank you for your kind words Being645 and VoC

That was part of my classical music education and the forms that uses that was a field of research at some time for me

Btw Recitativo is more ancient than we can imagine, probably one of the oldest and among the first expression forms of human beings